Overvalued cards/players on the market currently....

olb31 · January 21, 2011 4:56AM

In my humble opinion, there are several players whose cards and themselves seemed somewhat overpriced/overated based on their performance/availableness. Please chime in with some of yours.

1) LeOverated James - People just keep paying and paying for this guy and he keeps playing well, but just seems like something is missing.

2) Sidney Crosby - while a great hockey player, paying the amounts people are paying for him just seems absurd. I think Andy Griffith reruns have higher Nielson ratings then the Stanley Cup

3) Alexander Ovechkin (Sp) - ditto number #2

4) Tiger Woods - What have you done for me lately? And his competition has never really been there. Over course he is a great golfer.

5) Chris Paul - Lots of accolades, not much of anything else. He's he even a top 5 point guard right now, maybe.

6) Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson - they are RB's, dependent on so many other factors, sell while you can.

7) Aaron Rodgers??? - a little overhyped right now, good QB, but injury prone (concussions) and got a late start, not a good combination

8) Philip Rivers - a some of number 7, can't win a big game

9) Derek Jeter - great number, great leader but gets hyped because no one accuses him of steroids. If steriods are not in the equation his cards go down.

10) The Mick - he was a great player, but he cards are god-like. Is he even in the top 10 best OF's of all-time?

That's my list. What do you think? And what are some of yours.

PowderedH2O · January 21, 2011 5:24AM

I'm not sure I would classify Aaron Rodgers as injury prone. He missed a game with a concussion. That's the only game he has missed in his three years as a starter, and from what I heard, he wasn't too happy about not being able to play against the Patriots. I think he is just on the verge of superstardom. If the Packers win the Super Bowl and Rodgers has a Steve Young/Doug Williams type game, I think his cards will rise, rise, rise...

hhmag70 · January 21, 2011 5:33AM

<< I'm not sure I would classify Aaron Rodgers as injury prone. He missed a game with a concussion. That's the only game he has missed in his three years as a starter, and from what I heard, he wasn't too happy about not being able to play against the Patriots. I think he is just on the verge of superstardom. If the Packers win the Super Bowl and Rodgers has a Steve Young/Doug Williams type game, I think his cards will rise, rise, rise... >>

Steve Young = Doug Williams ???

bking · January 21, 2011 5:38AM

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<< I'm not sure I would classify Aaron Rodgers as injury prone. He missed a game with a concussion. That's the only game he has missed in his three years as a starter, and from what I heard, he wasn't too happy about not being able to play against the Patriots. I think he is just on the verge of superstardom. If the Packers win the Super Bowl and Rodgers has a Steve Young/Doug Williams type game, I think his cards will rise, rise, rise... >>

Steve Young = Doug Williams ??? >>

No, it was Steve Young DIVIDED BY Doug Williams

Seriously, I think he is only comparing their Super Bowl game performances.

burke23 · January 21, 2011 5:41AM

Don't forget Blake Griffin...very exciting and great young player, but cards have quintipled since before the season...yowza. And his numbers are not much different than Kevin Love's.

bking · January 21, 2011 5:43AM

<< Don't forget Blake Griffin...very exciting and great young player, but cards have quintipled since before the season...yowza. And his numbers are not much different than Kevin Love's. >>

I could have gone all day and not heard a Griffin-Love reference.. OMFG, ESPN is beating that "rivalry" to death this week....

illinifan912 · January 21, 2011 5:59AM

being on the hockey side, tavares and carey price are quite high too

CollectorAtWork · January 21, 2011 6:14AM

I think Mantle is completely overrated. He would be my #1 on the list. I also think Shoeless Joe Jackson is overrated also (as are the other Black Sox). Jax is a good player, but I think if the thrown WS never happened, he'd be in the category of Sisler/Hornsby and not the elite of the elite.

Jeter is a tough one. He's probably overvalued right now, but if there is one Yankee that is the symbol of their recent run of championships, it is Jeter. And if he can keep plugging away and can somehow break 4K hits or even break Rose's records, his cards can explode.

WinPitcher · January 21, 2011 6:18AM

<< Is he even in the top 10 best OF's of all-time? >>

ummm yeah he is, I agree his cards are overvalued.

CNote · January 21, 2011 7:25AM

<< I think Mantle is completely overrated. He would be my #1 on the list. I also think Shoeless Joe Jackson is overrated also (as are the other Black Sox). Jax is a good player, but I think if the thrown WS never happened, he'd be in the category of Sisler/Hornsby and not the elite of the elite.

Jeter is a tough one. He's probably overvalued right now, but if there is one Yankee that is the symbol of their recent run of championships, it is Jeter. And if he can keep plugging away and can somehow break 4K hits or even break Rose's records, his cards can explode. >>

I don't think Jeter will get to 4,000 hits, let alone break the record.

PowderedH2O · January 21, 2011 7:49AM

Yes I was comparing Steve Young and Doug Williams' Super Bowl performances. If Rodgers were to have that kind of a game, no doubt his cards will be super hot!

akuracy503 · January 21, 2011 7:57AM

I'll go out on the line and say that Mickey Mantle is undervalued! Yea...You read correctly.

Just wait and see our next generation of collectors carry the Mantle torch into the future.
Our Baby Boomer parents taught us well.

Toro · January 21, 2011 8:02AM

1. Any young player that "prospectors" or investors pay an absurd price for. Yes, it's the hobby but to pay a price equivalent to them already being in the HOF is craziness. Who would have ever thought you'd be thinking to yourself...well, it's only $1200 right now and has the potential to be a $3000 card if he has a good season. If you throw in an MVP season...and they string together a couple more solid ones...it could be a $8000-$10,000 card....(LeBron Exquisite, Crosby Cup).

2. Tiger Woods is NOT overrated....to say he doesn't have "competition" is laughable.....and just shows how great he is....baseball has steroids....golf has women...haha

3. Mickey Mantle is not overrated but his card prices are inflated a bit...his cards have peeked....they're not going to drop in price immensely over time though..

4-10 (See #1)

BobbyVCP · January 21, 2011 8:37AM

The T206 Wagner..... there are to many of them for it to get the prices that it does. There are so many other pre-war cards that have far less population.

CollectorAtWork · January 21, 2011 8:45AM

<< The T206 Wagner..... there are to many of them for it to get the prices that it does. There are so many other pre-war cards that have far less population. >>

I think the T206 Wagner is more justified (although probably not completely) because of the ratio of the pop of this card to others in the T206 set. The T206 is such a hugely popular set that so many people collect. The other low pop prewar cards are scarce all around and not as popular as T206. I agree there are some cards within T206 that are scarcer than Wagner, like the Doyle, but you can say these are error cards of common players, and not the single card in the set of an elite HOFer. You see a similar dynamic with the Lajoie in the 33 Goudey set.

Golfcollector · January 21, 2011 9:16AM

Joe Namath

otwcards · January 21, 2011 10:55AM

Jeter is overrated, not overvalued. Approaching 3000 hits, 5 WS rings, arguably one of the 3 greatest shortstops of all-time and the face of the greatest franchise in sports history in the largest media market.

Mantle? MANTLE? Some people are jaded by the numbers that players put up in the steroid era. Mickey was the man (see Jeter above) who not only had to replace Joe DiMaggio, but carry on the Yankees tradition. How did he do? A Triple Crown, 3 MVP Awards, 7 WS rings and countless post season records that were only broken because of the extended playoffs. Overvalued? Not really. He's the pride of the baby boomers.

Never underestimate the amount of money hockey fans will spend. They defy all collecting logic and have a mindset that only exists in their segment of the hobby.

PowderedH2O · January 21, 2011 12:15PM

Mantle only led the AL in OPS+ eight times in eleven years. How great could he have been?

CNote · January 21, 2011 1:16PM

<< Mantle only led the AL in OPS+ eight times in eleven years. How great could he have been? >>

Exactly. And, he has the best baseball player name ever, IMO. Might be a silly statement, but whatever.

CEOBIDMC · January 21, 2011 1:21PM

honestly this list is a bit of a joke

vladguerrero · January 21, 2011 1:28PM

<< honestly this list is a bit of a joke >>

I just assumed that was the intent, of course the best NBA, NHL, and PGA players are overated.

Blacklabelsociety · January 21, 2011 2:24PM

<< I think Mantle is completely overrated. . >>

Not sure if he's overrated but what his cards are worth, Musial, Williams, Mays, and Clemente are underrated.

CollectorAtWork · January 21, 2011 3:54PM

<< Jeter is overrated, not overvalued. Approaching 3000 hits, 5 WS rings, arguably one of the 3 greatest shortstops of all-time and the face of the greatest franchise in sports history in the largest media market.

Mantle? MANTLE? Some people are jaded by the numbers that players put up in the steroid era. Mickey was the man (see Jeter above) who not only had to replace Joe DiMaggio, but carry on the Yankees tradition. How did he do? A Triple Crown, 3 MVP Awards, 7 WS rings and countless post season records that were only broken because of the extended playoffs. Overvalued? Not really. He's the pride of the baby boomers.

Never underestimate the amount of money hockey fans will spend. They defy all collecting logic and have a mindset that only exists in their segment of the hobby. >>

Compare Mays to Mantle. So tell me why Mantle cards are worth 10X what Mays are going for and the 52 Topps Mantle about 100X?

Blacklabelsociety · January 21, 2011 7:08PM

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Most of you people need a serious lesson in basic economics. Stats don't dictate the price of baseball or sports cards. Never has and never will. It's ALWAYS been about supply and demand (mostly demand). Stats obviously help players be more sought after but only to a certain extent. >>

True

zep33 · January 21, 2011 7:45PM

I'm shocked there aren't more Woody Held collectors myself

Dialj · January 21, 2011 8:32PM

Compare Mays to Mantle. So tell me why Mantle cards are worth 10X what Mays are going for and the 52 Topps Mantle about 100X?

I think Mays was every bit as good as Mantle, but the lack of WS rings, playing for the Yankees, and awards are the main reason for the value difference between their cards. JMO

mikeschmidt · January 21, 2011 9:16PM

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Why do SO MANY people on this forum have so much of a mancrush for Clemente and rank him with the best players of his era? He wasn't anywhere near those other guys.
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Bluntly -- a tragic death greatly increases the persona and memories of a player. That Clemente tragically died while a) helping others and b) having achieved a significant baseball milestone [3,000 hits] will forever cement him as a hero.

Hallco · January 22, 2011 12:11AM

Sidney Crosby is godlike to modern hockey collectors and just about everyone in Canada! The guy has won Olympic Gold, Stanley Cup, many NHL awards including the Hart Trophy("MVP' to those who don't follow hockey), and had points in 25 consecutive games this season. When you add all of this to a true Rookie Card, 2005-06 Upper Deck Young Guns which was short-printed, you have a card that just keeps going up in value.

e64mtd · January 22, 2011 1:41AM

The Ovechkin and especially the Crosby Upper Deck YG are amongst the most overpriced hockey cards in the market right now. There are an incredible amount of these cards in "gem condition" from the three major labels. Anyone who's buying these rookies as an investment should be looking at the short-term. There's only one direction for these to go over the long haul with well over a thousand of each available with "gem" designation. Demand will come down and prices will follow.

Stone193 · January 22, 2011 2:09AM

This is gonna be trite - but I think most BB cards - considering the quantity available - are overpriced.

One of my bigger regrets? Paying around 500$ back in the early 90s for a 65T Carlton RC!

waxman2745 · January 22, 2011 2:14AM

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<< I think Mantle is completely overrated. . >>

Not sure if he's overrated but what his cards are worth, Musial, Williams, Mays, and Clemente are underrated. >>

I agree, plus multiple cards of the mick in many Topps sets (4 cards in the 1961 set for example) makes those pretty pricey to complete.

Blacklabelsociety · January 22, 2011 2:12PM

MLB network top 5 centerfielders of all-time

1. Mays
2. Cobb
3. Mantle
4. speaker
5. Dimaggio

Dimaggio and Mantle has stated that Mays is the best player they ever saw.

RoarIn84 · January 22, 2011 3:57PM

#1 most overpriced card (per capita) in the past 25 years- 1989 UD Griffey..... There are at least a million (not counting factory sets) of these in circulation. Quality of player notwithstanding (because he is probably #6 on the greatest OF of alltime), this is just a basic card!! In a sense, i guess, much of the value is Andy Pafko-esqe, due to it being the #1 card of the company..... but seriously, these cards sell consistently for $20+ RAW on Ebay...... but, supply&demand rule the world, no matter how irrational.

Overvalued cards/players on the market currently....

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