Need some help with ASE's that were recovered for the WTC

piecesofme

Do these silver eagles have a population report? and if so are they by year or what?
I thought they were only housed in PCGS holders, i've seen some in ICG holders?
Why are some actually graded with an MS or PF grade and others just say Gem Brilliant UNC?

I bought one recently and they have kind sparked an interest to collect them. Any help would be appreciated.

meluaufeet

POM... this may help

Also, note the column on the right side of this page.


wtc911 - WTC Coins from PCGS

piecesofme

Thank you for that link feet. Now that I know PCGS intends not to publish a population report, I doubt i'll start collecting as I had intended to. Because if they do ever release a Pop. report and I have all the ones that have high populations, I guess i'd just have a bunch of ASE's then. Not worth taking that chance imo being that they are already significantly over priced. Kind of wonder why PCGS would not choose to make that info. public? Maybe they dont want any year to be more imporatnt than the other being that some refer to these as "blood coins" and really dont want them to be sold for any profit?

piecesofme

I can't seem to help myself showing some interest with these, so please forgive me for all the questions.

Why do some a "logo" on the reverse of the slab like this one:
not normal for these wtc coins

But most have the "collectors universe" logo on the reverse of the slab, like this?
normal reverse for these wtc coins

That website doesn't mention anything about it that I can tell. I am going to submit the same question there but thought someone might be able to help here. Thanks

Ciccio

If I am not mistaken the CU logo was done for a charity here in the forum. (100 pcs?)
For what I understood, those are the ones with more "value" (due to their purpose).
Though, I find hard to understand why somebody should sell it.
You should have better luck on the US Coin Forum.

piecesofme

Not selling, I am trying to start collecting them and gathering info. if it is worth doing so. The Collectors universe logo ones are far more easy to collect. I think it's the other more PCGS tyoe ones that re rarer, but I dont know for sure. I'll post this on the US coin Forum, just thought since it's a .999 coin, this would be the place. Thanks for the help.

piecesofme

Ciccio...apparently absolutely no one has anything to say about it on the US coin forum LOL Not a single repsonse, so I guess i'll continue it here. If anyone has any more info. on these, please feel free to discuss it on this thread.

trozau

I got a couple of them dated 2001 and graded MS69 for my kids. I believe they were initially slabbed as Gem Uncirculated but later, some were re-submitted to get an actual grade valuation.

Weiss

I don't know if there are pop reports for them, but there are tons and tons of threads about them if you search.

Here's mine:

piecesofme

There are no "official" pop. reports as I understand it, but there certain dates with certain grades that are public. That website that meluaufeet provided is helpful, but does still leave alot of questions I have about them unanswered. Unfortunately it doesnt have much of a forum to discuss anything either. I did email some questions to whoever it is that runs the site though so hopefully i'll get some credible answers. Bought a few on ebay from a guy that seems to know a bit about them too, so i've been picking his brain.
I'm just at the very early stage of considering collecting all of them because I think it is do-able, but still debating it.

Weiss

Recall that there are several types of foreign gold and even 1-oz bars in WTC slabs.

trozau

<< <i>Recall that there are several types of foreign gold and even 1-oz bars in WTC slabs. >>


And some platinum as well.

Ciccio

<< <i>Ciccio...apparently absolutely no one has anything to say about it on the US coin forum LOL Not a single repsonse, so I guess i'll continue it here. If anyone has any more info. on these, please feel free to discuss it on this thread. >>



You can post wherever you want, I was just trying helping.
The little that I know about those ASEs I read it on the US Coin forum and it's there that after Sep.11th they did the auction. The PM forum is younger for what I know.

Justacommeman

I lived three blocks from the WTC on 9/11. I have zero interest in adding/collecting anything about the event. However, I can see why one would have an interest in these or other artifacts. I still have my "mask" that I wore in and out of the zone the following weeks and other random stuff. They are in a box in my basement. MJ

TrustNo1

<< <i>I lived three blocks from the WTC on 9/11. I have zero interest in adding/collecting anything about the event. However, I can see why one would have an interest in these or other artifacts. I still have my "mask" that I wore in and out of the zone the following weeks and other random stuff. They are in a box in my basement. MJ >>

ditto, I still feel uneasy just being in the area...

piecesofme

I am honestly sorry and apologize if I have stirred up any bad, negative thoughts/feelings. I mean that.
It's just that I have recently "discovered" that these pieces of history were even out there and as hard as I try to stay away from them because of the circumstances surrounding them, i just can't help myself wanting to know more about them and possibly put a set together, for the history buff in me.
Again, my sincerest apologies if I've caused any bad memories, I assure you that that was not my intention.

Justacommeman

<< <i>I am honestly sorry and apologize if I have stirred up any bad, negative thoughts/feelings. I mean that.
It's just that I have recently "discovered" that these pieces of history were even out there and as hard as I try to stay away from them because of the circumstances surrounding them, i just can't help myself wanting to know more about them and possibly put a set together, for the history buff in me.
Again, my sincerest apologies if I've caused any bad memories, I assure you that that was not my intention. >>



I know I didn't take it that way............no worries here and no apologies necessary. My Mom's house is filled with " produced 9/11 memorabilla" and if I can handle that actual artifacts is no problemo.

My girlfriend's apt faced the WTC from a few blocks away on Chambers/Hudson. She had a duplex with a deck that faced the WTC. We layed out in the a hammock often and you felt like you could almost reach out and touch it. My apt was in Battery Park ( a lot of the post 9/11 footage was shot from on top of my building. Her apartment was a total loss as she left all her windows open that day. What we found a few weeks later would blow most peoples minds. My apt faced across the river into NJ and the GW bridge. I lived on a very high floor so my apt itself was fine. However, I bailed in October as the area smelled like death and there was always a metallic taste in the air. On top of that there was a rythmic banging every 3 minutes. The sound of a crane dropping huge hunks of twisted metal round the clock into a gigantic barge.

Like a lot of New Yorkers I lost a lot of friends and neighbors and I piece of my soul. I have never been back to the immediate area and probably will never in the future. I believe most that lived downtown feel the same.

Again, I totally get the fastination with collecting WTC stuff. Build yourself a very cool collection. It's history. MJ

piecesofme

Thanks for sharing your story and understanding why I have found an interest in these MJ. To me, even something like you telling your story here adds to the history of my collection of them. Might sound kind of weird, but it does.
I guess you could say that discovering that these coins are out there kind of has reminded me of that time and in doing so made me realize that I had forgotten a little bit of that price that was paid that day and in those that followed.
Maybe i'm thinking subconciously that if I collect these and they are a part of me and I can see and look at them whenever I want to, I wont forget the slightest of this event like I admit I have.
Remember how we came together as a Nation? There was a period of time there in the aftermath that we all stood as one once again and that was the first time I had experienced that in my life not being old enough (or alive) to remember other times that it had in our Nations history. I dont want to forget what happened that day, and just as strongly, I want that feeling of One that we had to come back. Maybe i'm being unrealistic, but there's always hope and it should'nt take a tragedy to treat our Brothers & Sisters they way we did after 9-11.