Patriots choke......AGAIN
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It would s*ck to have to be Pats fan. Knowing their own team cheated on what they thought was real, and then fail bad,, against the JETS in attempt to prove themselves. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. Patriots ??? thank golly you don't actually rerpresent America !
Jets playoff wins last two seasons: 4
'Nuff said, LOL..
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i don't know if they choked today, they did get out played
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<< <i>I think Brady is 4-5 in his last nine playoff games...unbelievable stat. >>
well if that is true then Bart Starr is rising back to the top of the all time highest winning % for QB's at 9-1.
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<< <i>I think Brady is 4-5 in his last nine playoff games...unbelievable stat. >>
well if that is true then Bart Starr is rising back to the top of the all time highest winning % for QB's at 9-1. >>
Kind of odd...I thought football was 11 men on defense, 11 men on offense...and special teams. Wait, it is!
Funny that Brady was like 8-0 or something to start out his playoff career....maybe he should have retired and been viewed as some super natural playoff player
Super Bowls measure teams, not individuals....and it also measures good fortune or playing hot at the right time. It does NOT discern which player is better. Yeah, I know, I will get beat up for saying that because America has bought into the hype machinery at work.
Fact is, none of those QB's win a SB with a team that is below average in all other aspects. Until that occurs, THEN you can boast about a QB 'winning' a Super Bowl.
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<< <i>I think Brady is 4-5 in his last nine playoff games...unbelievable stat. >>
well if that is true then Bart Starr is rising back to the top of the all time highest winning % for QB's at 9-1. >>
Kind of odd...I thought football was 11 men on defense, 11 men on offense...and special teams. Wait, it is!
Funny that Brady was like 8-0 or something to start out his playoff career....maybe he should have retired and been viewed as some super natural playoff player
Super Bowls measure teams, not individuals....and it also measures good fortune or playing hot at the right time. It does NOT discern which player is better. Yeah, I know, I will get beat up for saying that because America has bought into the hype machinery at work.
Fact is, none of those QB's win a SB with a team that is below average in all other aspects. Until that occurs, THEN you can boast about a QB 'winning' a Super Bowl. >>
Reality is the QB gets most of the credit because he is considered the team leader. Thats why the QB makes the big bucks. Just the way it is.
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<< <i>. Is it fair? No, but when a team is struggling, the fans don't chant for the backup wide receiver of offensive guard to come off the bench...they want the backup QB.. >>
Good point.
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Wow, what a spanking. A true spanking of the Patriots. Through and through. No question at all.
<< <i>Wow, what a spanking. A true spanking of the Patriots. Through and through. No question at all. >>
Congrats to the Jets. Now please beat that hideous Rapelsburger. Would be nice to see Jason Taylor and LT win a Super Bowl.
<< <i>Agreed, in football especially, the QB is always going to get the lion's share of the credit when his team is winning and most of the blame when his team is losing. Is it fair? No, but when a team is struggling, the fans don't chant for the backup wide receiver of offensive guard to come off the bench...they want the backup QB.. >>
I certainly understand this, and it looks like several posters do. But it is baffling when the same people then interject SB win as a criteria to judge the ability of the player. When using the SB win as a criteria, all it does is introduce a million errors into your analysis and conclusion.
It is falling prey to the hype machine of building/destroying heroes that are created to make it more appealing to the basic need for the hero/goat in a drama.
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<< <i>I think Brady is 4-5 in his last nine playoff games...unbelievable stat. >>
well if that is true then Bart Starr is rising back to the top of the all time highest winning % for QB's at 9-1. >>
Kind of odd...I thought football was 11 men on defense, 11 men on offense...and special teams. Wait, it is!
Funny that Brady was like 8-0 or something to start out his playoff career....maybe he should have retired and been viewed as some super natural playoff player
Super Bowls measure teams, not individuals....and it also measures good fortune or playing hot at the right time. It does NOT discern which player is better. Yeah, I know, I will get beat up for saying that because America has bought into the hype machinery at work.
Fact is, none of those QB's win a SB with a team that is below average in all other aspects. Until that occurs, THEN you can boast about a QB 'winning' a Super Bowl. >>
Well said, thats why the whole who's better Brady or Manning arguments doesn't work. Everyone compares rings and says Brady is better because of that. If they were to switch teams would they have the same # of titles? Of course we'll never know, but I think Manning might have more and Brady would have less.
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<< <i>Patriots did not choke. Brady was a little off, but they got beat by better defense and better coaching that day. Congrats to the Jets. Now please beat that hideous Rapelsburger. Would be nice to see Jason Taylor and LT win a Super Bowl. >>
Well, better defense certainly, and it seemed like the Jets wanted it more. But no way do I want that whiny crybaby Ladainian (not calling him LT, that's reserved for the real LT) winning anything.
And the antics of the Jets after the game just showed the difference in class between the two organizations. Act like you've been there before...oh that's right, you haven't. Never mind then.
<< <i>Agreed, in football especially, the QB is always going to get the lion's share of the credit when his team is winning and most of the blame when his team is losing. Is it fair? No, but when a team is struggling, the fans don't chant for the backup wide receiver of offensive guard to come off the bench...they want the backup QB.. >>
Exactly. Aaron Rodgers took a lot of crap last year when the Packers were beaten in the playoffs by Arizona. Never mind that he led his team to 45 points, was 28-42 for 423 yds and 4 TDs, and had a 121.4 rating. The loss was somehow his fault.
New England got outcoached yesterday. Rex Ryan is a moron but he outperformed Belichick yesterday, no question about it.
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I have no problems with the on field celebration after winning a game in which no one gave them a chance...and talk about whining, Deioin Branch should have used some if that emotion to catch a pass or two during the game instead of whining to the press. Sour grapes is all it is..
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<< <i>And the antics of the Jets after the game just showed the difference in class between the two organizations. Act like you've been there before...oh that's right, you haven't. Never mind then.
I have no problems with the on field celebration after winning a game in which no one gave them a chance...and talk about whining, Deioin Branch should have used some if that emotion to catch a pass or two during the game instead of whining to the press. Sour grapes is all it is.. >>
I don't disagree with Branch not showing up yesterday, or the fact that Belichick got outcoached. It drove me nuts to watch the lack of urgency the Pats showed through most of the game, and there was no need to try that fake punt so early in the game. But giving credit where it is due, Shawn Ellis had a great game for the Jets. It seemed like he was in the backfield every other play.
<< <i>And the antics of the Jets after the game just showed the difference in class between the two organizations. Act like you've been there before...oh that's right, you haven't. Never mind then.
I have no problems with the on field celebration after winning a game in which no one gave them a chance...and talk about whining, Deioin Branch should have used some if that emotion to catch a pass or two during the game instead of whining to the press. Sour grapes is all it is.. >>
Every team celebrates and taunt when they win. It is what it is and if you do not want to see it , then beat the other team.
<< <i>too funny. The Patriots had all the film for the 3 'super bowls;. Yes they won them. But wouldn't any team that knew all plays. Cheating loser people !
It would s*ck to have to be Pats fan. Knowing their own team cheated on what they thought was real, and then fail bad,, against the JETS in attempt to prove themselves. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. Patriots ??? thank golly you don't actually rerpresent America ! >>