Hypothetical question regarding PSA slab melting....

akuracy503

Let's say a PSA slab was under serious heat and melted...for instance inside a home fire.
Whether directly or indirectly exposed the card does not catch fire, would the aftermath be that the card is ruined by the melted plastic casing?

Would be curious to your thoughts on this subject.

Planemonkey

lets burn some slabs

tigerdean

IMO, I believe so. If you have any extremely valuable cards that you keep at home then I would suggest putting them in a fireproof safe which might spare them.

thedutymon

Evening,

Walking towards Fireplace with Topps Tiffany MINT 9's in hand........................Or just about any 80's Baseball !!!!!!!!!

YeeHah

Neil

Dboneesq

<< <i>Evening,
Walking towards Fireplace with Topps Tiffany MINT 9's in hand........................Or just about any 80's Baseball !!!!!!!!!
YeeHah
Neil >>



That is NOT going to smell too good Neil!

akuracy503

Even with a fireproof safe the internal temperatures would probably exceed the temperature barrier these slabs could withstand.
IMO they will still melt inside a fireproof safe.



<< <i>IMO, I believe so. If you have any extremely valuable cards that you keep at home then I would suggest putting them in a fireproof safe which might spare them. >>

Sean1125

Ok then fill the fire proof safe with antifreeze

akuracy503

Serious question guys, will the slab melt over the card and seperate after cooling?

What will be the after affects on the card itself....someones gotta try a test run with photos...

WinPitcher

Ok, you do it and let us know how it all works out.

waverlee

<< <i>Serious question guys, will the slab melt over the card and seperate after cooling?

What will be the after affects on the card itself....someones gotta try a test run with photos... >>



Serious question, will you really be worried about your PSA slabs if your house catches fire. Serious question.

If you drive off a cliff into the ocean, and you have PSA slabs in the trunk of your car, will they be safe? Serious question

akuracy503

Remind me to never do business with this guy.



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<< <i>Serious question guys, will the slab melt over the card and seperate after cooling?

What will be the after affects on the card itself....someones gotta try a test run with photos... >>



Serious question, will you really be worried about your PSA slabs if your house catches fire. Serious question.

If you drive off a cliff into the ocean, and you have PSA slabs in the trunk of your car, will they be safe? Serious question >>

Brick

I would imagine that during an emergency such as a fire your thought would be for the safety of your family and getting out. After the fire is out and it is safe to enter then you hope the precautions you took were sufficient. At that time you would also hope your insurance covers your loss. The time to find out if your precautions and insurance are sufficient is before the event. I would imagine the fireproof safe companies know the limits of protection of the different models. I would think that if the heat is enough to melt the plastic the card would be ruined.

RookieWax

<< <i>Evening,

Walking towards Fireplace with Topps Tiffany MINT 9's in hand........................Or just about any 80's Baseball !!!!!!!!!

YeeHah

Neil >>



Now why you picking on Topps TIFFANY cards?? Those are the only cards from the late 80s worth hanging onto.

bking

Rough numbers:

cardboard will start to burn around 250 F, amd I'm betting it shows heat damage (singed) even lower.
plastic will melt somewhere between 300 and 450 depending on the type.

thedutymon

<< <i>

<< <i>Evening,

Walking towards Fireplace with Topps Tiffany MINT 9's in hand........................Or just about any 80's Baseball !!!!!!!!!

YeeHah

Neil >>



Now why you picking on Topps TIFFANY cards?? Those are the only cards from the late 80s worth hanging onto. >>



Baseball, Smaseball, you say tomatoe I say Tomato....Its all 80's Baseball crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YeeHah

Neil

akuracy503

Thanks for the replies, especially those of you who stayed on topic.
I'll have to take a junk slab camping with me this summer and test out the results in a campfire.

WinPitcher

lol was this really a serious question?

I feel like I was being punked.

vladguerrero

akuracy, in rock, scissors, paper do you get confused with what beats what?

akuracy503

It's an honest question, how would the cardboard react when some of the PSA plastic melts on it.
Since plastics will mold and form to it's surroundings under melting temperatures theoretically it could seperate from the cardboard once cooled under it's new molded formation.

I'm an analyst by trade and love to know the details.
Glad some of you think it's comical.



Typo correction.



<< <i>akuracy, in rock, scissors, paper do you get confused with what beats what? >>

bking

In addition to my 2-minute Google 'research' showing that paper burns at a lower temp than plastic melts, there's another problem or two.

1) I suspect that the inks would also discolor at a lower temp than where plastic melts.
2) Paper, being porous, would likely be so tightly bound to the melted plastic that separating them would be darned hard to do.

In short, my belief is that by the time the plastic melts the card would be damaged.

In case anyone is curious, I suspect this also applies to any attempt to use heat to 'crack' a slab for nefarious purposes.

vladguerrero

lots of PSA melting going on in this video...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYT2fvfFEFQ

lawnmowerman

Speaking about fires. Did you know that fire is the rapid oxidation of a material in the chemical process of combustion, releasing heat, light, and various reaction products? Slower oxidative processes like rusting or digestion are not included by this definition.

The flame is the visible portion of the fire and consists of glowing hot gases. If hot enough, the gases may become ionized to produce plasma. Depending on the substances alight, and any impurities outside, the color of the flame and the fire's intensity might vary.

Fire in its most common form can result in conflagration, which has the potential to cause physical damage through burning. Fire is an important process that affects ecological systems across the globe. The positive effects of fire include stimulating growth and maintaining various ecological systems. Fire has been used by humans for cooking, generating heat, signaling, and propulsion purposes. The negative effects of fire include decreased water purity, increased soil erosion, an increase in atmospheric pollutants and an increased hazard to human life.

CEOBIDMC

i enjoyed an excellent beef burrito for dinner last night, you wanna talk about flaming gases.

grote15

No offense to the OP, but I can certainly understand why you were spoofed after reading this ridiculous thread..