Best way to price foreign for BST?

Weiss

So I don't want to appear to be trolling for sales on this forum while offering items for sale on the world and ancient BST. But I don't know prices for some pieces, and past/current eBay sales don't seem to be much help.

What's the least objectionable way to ask for help and then to sell stuff? Or is there one?

lordmarcovan

I don't find asking for price help here objectionable. This ain't the Liteside. It's not like you're directly spamming up this board. People ask for valuations all the time. Whether or not you intend to then resell the coins in question is moot, since you'll be listing them on the BST instead of here.

I wouldn't even have found it objectionable if you had asked for help with valuations, and then said, "OK, thanks, everybody, now click here to see these on the BST." But maybe that's stretching things a little.

Weiss

Well heck, if that's the case

You may have seen a brief appearance of these on the lightside earlier in my '21 peace post. They and 3 other similar no-line 1989-era fatties walked into my dealer's today from a collector who started collecting NGC 65 coins in the late 1980s and then stopped and forgot about them.

1876 Netherlands 10g MS65. Stunner obverse and reverse:





And this 1904 5 rubles. Simply gorgeous luster. But it's got a few black specs on the obverse. I don't think it's PVC, but black copper spots? Or were Russian pieces of this era prone to spotting?




Any opinions welcome.

HTubbs

I like the Netherlands 10 Gulden!

newsman

I think it's a matter of findiing the right buyer.

The market price on the Russian coin is generally pegged to melt value -- not sure about the 10 G, though. But assuming it is, I haven't seen many people willing to pay significant premiums for grade points on common gold coins. They're probably worth some percentage over melt.

Still, you could price both of them high and see if anyone bites, then worry about coming down later.

SYRACUSIAN

I agree with newsman on these two, they're both very common, even in gem. The Russian's 1902 version can be found easily in MS67, there's been a hoard of them at some point. Teletrade or Heritage could help you with realized prices of similar slabbed material. The trouble with ebay's completed listings is that they only show very recent ones, upto 2-3 weeks I think.

Weiss

Good to know, guys. Thanks!

theboz11

If you make a habit of it however, a Giveaway is usually offered.

SaorAlba

Netherlands prices are fairly stable collecting wise, I collect the 1897 Wilhelmina coins myself and find they price at 20% over spot for nice clean MS 65+ coins. The Russians, as Syracusian has pointed out, are fairly common and trade closer to bullion. Of course there is a bit more premium for MS-67 coins, but still only a percentage above spot because there were a lot of them released into the collecting community as the "Nordic gold hoard" was sold off. These coins were all in the Norwegian gold reserves and started filtering into the market several years ago. Back ten years ago it was possible to buy up 5 ruble and 10 ruble coins in lots of a hundred or more. Even recently I saw a lot of 72 5 ruble coins on a Heritage auction.