Probstein on eBay

arex · January 11, 2011 11:16PM

Has anyone ever dealt with him?
How is his raw grading? He has several things that interest me but I just want to see what others experiences have been like.

WalterSobchak · January 11, 2011 11:20PM

Don't think I've bought raw from him, but I've bought graded from him several times. Customer service was great and I received the cards very quickly in each case.

Morgoth · January 11, 2011 11:20PM

Raw, just like the rest about 1 to 2 grades too high on most but some undergraded too. If he is saying NM/MT it is most likely going to average out at NM grade by PSA.

arex · January 11, 2011 11:32PM

<< Raw, just like the rest about 1 to 2 grades too high on most but some undergraded too. If he is saying NM/MT it is most likely going to average out at NM grade by PSA. >>

cool, thanks,

detroitfan2 · January 11, 2011 11:53PM

Maybe this is stating the obvious, but buying raw from a seller that sells a lot of graded cards with the intent of grading the card yourself is probably a losing proposition financially. If there was money to be made grading the card, the seller would have already sent it in.

That is not to say that the seller overgrades the raw cards or that the raw cards are not a good value, only that the cost of the raw card plus any future grading fees will probably be greater than buying the card already graded. On the positive side, it's probable that the seller's raw cards were from the same lots that produced "TPG worthy" cards, which (save for a few well-documented cases) would indicate that the raw card is unaltered / authentic.

As for the specific seller, I have purchased graded cards with no problems from him and also wished I had the funds to purchase more, he has great stuff.

Rogermnj · January 11, 2011 11:55PM

this guy has a never ending of supply of stuff. i have spent 5 fiigures with him before on raw cards and did very well. i was in his house picking up boxes upon boxes of 70s and 80s sets and lots.

he was a huge dealer in the 80s and has warehouses full of stuff that hasnt seen the light of day in 20+yrs.

im not sure about individual cards he lists but if he has set lots and other stuff like that i think you will be pleased

detroitfan2 · January 11, 2011 11:59PM

<< this guy has a never ending of supply of stuff. i have spent 5 fiigures with him before on raw cards and did very well. i was in his house picking up boxes upon boxes of 70s and 80s sets and lots.

he was a huge dealer in the 80s and has warehouses full of stuff that hasnt seen the light of day in 20+yrs.

im not sure about individual cards he lists but if he has set lots and other stuff like that i think you will be pleased >>

In this case, perhaps my philosophy is off-base!

itzagoner · January 12, 2011 12:01AM

purchased a very nice graded card from him a few months ago and was quite satisfied.....i have noticed he always has a ton of stuff available including a nice run of non-sports, and it is possible that some of his consignors are requesting that he sell their cards in raw form or it has been recommended to avoid the risks with grading.

you'd certainly stand a better chance with this guy than most.

ThoseBackPages · January 12, 2011 12:02AM

Rick is a great dealer, and better yet, an amazing human being

Publius · January 12, 2011 12:04AM

Great seller, Ive bought alot of stuff from him. He was also set up at the Balty national, its always good to put a face to a name.

I would ditto what Roger said about buying raw from dealers. Wringing money out of cards is what they do for a living, if they're selling its had the value wrung out of it.

Morgoth · January 12, 2011 12:12AM

<< this guy has a never ending of supply of stuff. i have spent 5 fiigures with him before on raw cards and did very well. i was in his house picking up boxes upon boxes of 70s and 80s sets and lots.

he was a huge dealer in the 80s and has warehouses full of stuff that hasnt seen the light of day in 20+yrs.

im not sure about individual cards he lists but if he has set lots and other stuff like that i think you will be pleased >>

True but he grades and if he is selling raw it is will most likely be what he doesn't feel is worthwhile grading. If you are looking for NM lots for raw sets he is a great source. Now if you can buy before he picks through it than you can do very well.

Jmhockey23 · January 12, 2011 12:25AM

I've bought from him a few times. I've never been disappointed. Never raw though. I've gotten graded cards and unopened boxes. He is saved in my favorite sellers list.

Rogermnj · January 12, 2011 12:36AM

<< 

<< this guy has a never ending of supply of stuff. i have spent 5 fiigures with him before on raw cards and did very well. i was in his house picking up boxes upon boxes of 70s and 80s sets and lots.

he was a huge dealer in the 80s and has warehouses full of stuff that hasnt seen the light of day in 20+yrs.

im not sure about individual cards he lists but if he has set lots and other stuff like that i think you will be pleased >>

True but he grades and if he is selling raw it is will most likely be what he doesn't feel is worthwhile grading. If you are looking for NM lots for raw sets he is a great source. Now if you can buy before he picks through it than you can do very well. >>

maybe true but i doubt he goes through all his cards. you cant really understand how much stuff this guy has and he does not sell cards for a living, he did a long time ago but he has a career.
i bought a lot of 25 84 topps football sets that yielded a never ending supply of 10s and multiple sets from 71-80. at one point i bought 20 1980 topps baseball sets and multiple topps sets from every year from 71-79 that im sure he never went through. he also had a table full of racks with stars on top that would have made muggymans head explode. literally hundreds of 70s racks with every star ontop and back and multiples. Cdnuts was with me, lee can vouch. really nice guy that i cant imagine going through card after card.

hookem · January 12, 2011 1:15AM

I bought my Gretzy Topps rookie from him but it was already graded.

No complaints on my side.

Bunker · January 12, 2011 1:20AM

I have bought a lot of raw and graded from him recently and have been happy with all purchases.

Bunker · January 12, 2011 1:41AM

I think a lot of big dealers like him do not take the time to send in all their cards for grading. If they can sell a raw card for $25 bucks they will do it opposed to taking the time to search through 100's or in his case, thousands of raw cards, fill out the paperwork, pay for shipping and insurance both ways and then send it to PSA or SGC and hope that he maybe will get $30 or $40 bucks for it graded.

I am not a big dealer so if I have a card that is worth $40 bucks graded vs raw, I will probably send it in...."one of these days". In most cases "one of these days" never comes and I wind up listing it on ebay and hope I get $15 or $20 dollars for it. That dosen't mean that because I sell graded cards also that none of my raw cards are grade worthy.

I am sure if it is a $100 or more dollar card they would send it in (maybe) everybody is probably different on what they think is worthy of submitting.

In Probsteins case I have been purchasing a lot of raw 50's cards for less than $25 bucks that I have been very happy with. One of these days I will probably send them to PSA to be graded.

Mickey71 · January 12, 2011 1:47AM

One of the best...if not the best on Ebay.

Morgoth · January 12, 2011 2:02AM

I purchased a bunch of 63s from him that were described as NM/MT or better that I would describe as NM or worse.

The price was good and he is great to deal with so I didn't have an issue with the cards as I always assume the worse. I am sure its a case by case thing but they are not messed with in any way. I am not saying he is anyway like Waverly just he probably doesn't have the time to really look too closely at the cards when he lists their condition in his descriptions.

CDsNuts · January 12, 2011 2:12AM

maybe true but i doubt he goes through all his cards. you cant really understand how much stuff this guy has and he does not sell cards for a living, he did a long time ago but he has a career. i bought a lot of 25 84 topps football sets that yielded a never ending supply of 10s and multiple sets from 71-80. at one point i bought 20 1980 topps baseball sets and multiple topps sets from every year from 71-79 that im sure he never went through. he also had a table full of racks with stars on top that would have made muggymans head explode. literally hundreds of 70s racks with every star ontop and back and multiples. Cdnuts was with me, lee can vouch. really nice guy that i cant imagine going through card after card.

Yeah but I was drunk. All I remember was He-Man racks and 81 Donruss binders.

lifeshouldbefun · January 12, 2011 2:17AM

Probstein123 is AWESOME !! If you buy a card he lists as EX-MT, it's typically EX-MT+ or possibly NM.
He is extremely strict with grading. I know him personally and I have also used him to sell high end stuff.
He has VERY cheap consignment fees. He will be selling off my 56 Mantle SGC 96 and charging 5%.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

ThoseBackPages · January 12, 2011 5:50AM

id also like to add that im sure he will refund your money if you are not satisfied

arex · January 12, 2011 5:51AM

Thanks guys!
I guess I will give him a try then!

gemint · January 12, 2011 6:00AM

Ditto here. I've bought a lot of graded cards from him and have been satisfied. I only bought four raw cards from him. One I returned to him for a refund because it was an obvious factory miscut. He took it back without question. The other raw cards are in for grading, so we'll see how they come back.

Blacklabelsociety · January 12, 2011 6:13AM

I bought some nice Pro graded cards from him.

grote15 · January 12, 2011 6:24AM

I've bought a lot of unopened packs from him over the years and never had a problem. He is easy to deal with and a very quick shipper.

calaban7 · January 12, 2011 6:48AM

He's great to deal with. Ships fast , secure and I always look forward to receiving his stuff in the mail.

There was one things I always wondered about , I know he consigns and such , but where does he come up with some of his cards ? Some of the 10's from the 60's and even the 50's are amazing.--- Sonny

Dboneesq · January 12, 2011 7:24AM

<< I've bought a lot of unopened packs from him over the years and never had a problem. He is easy to deal with and a very quick shipper. >>

SAME HERE!

celesterussell · January 12, 2011 7:27AM

he is a true pro in every sense of the industry......

hockeycrazy · January 12, 2011 7:54AM

Multiple purchases. He is one of the fastest shippers on Ebay.

Crazylegs · January 12, 2011 7:58AM

I was reading this so I go and check him out......
I bought 7 cards.

He has some amazing stuff.
Prices are fair too. (On most of it)

1neatstuff · January 12, 2011 8:32AM

1neatstuff · January 12, 2011 8:34AM

rick is a great seller as over the years i have bought unopened packs, cellos, racks etc from him...one of the fastest shippers and a great all around guy...

leftofdial · January 12, 2011 10:16AM

I've bought a bunch of oddball wax -Fleer FB Sticker Packs, BKB Packs, etc... from him and he has been great to work with. Packaged very well, fari pricing, and great communications too. I would like to meet him some day. Seems like a character, and I mean that in a only positive way

akuracy503 · January 12, 2011 10:23AM

Just bought some raw vintage from him and shipping was top notch, seems he has a solid business model in place.

detroitfan2 · January 12, 2011 11:34AM

<< maybe true but i doubt he goes through all his cards. you cant really understand how much stuff this guy has and he does not sell cards for a living, he did a long time ago but he has a career. i bought a lot of 25 84 topps football sets that yielded a never ending supply of 10s and multiple sets from 71-80. at one point i bought 20 1980 topps baseball sets and multiple topps sets from every year from 71-79 that im sure he never went through. he also had a table full of racks with stars on top that would have made muggymans head explode. literally hundreds of 70s racks with every star ontop and back and multiples. Cdnuts was with me, lee can vouch. really nice guy that i cant imagine going through card after card.

Yeah but I was drunk. All I remember was He-Man racks and 81 Donruss binders. >>

I don't think any of use were assuming otherwise, your honor.

Toro · January 12, 2011 3:02PM

I just want to say thanks for asking this question, I've considered buying from him and will be with full confidence. I'm more interested in all the unopened stuff he has.

fiveniner · January 12, 2011 11:36PM

Top Shelf Seller.

tyweb1 · January 13, 2011 3:56AM

Great seller. I have bought from him several times and on Sunday he actually bought a card from me.

WinPitcher · January 13, 2011 5:34AM

Arex

I don't think you will have a problem dealing with him, you just may get bombarded with insurance offers

though.

arex · January 13, 2011 6:11AM

do what?

thedutymon · January 13, 2011 6:24AM

<< Probstein123 is AWESOME !! If you buy a card he lists as EX-MT, it's typically EX-MT+ or possibly NM.
He is extremely strict with grading. I know him personally and I have also used him to sell high end stuff.
He has VERY cheap consignment fees. He will be selling off my 56 Mantle SGC 96 and charging 5%.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED >>

Is this Man Love or is he Probstein?!!!

YeeHah

Neil

diamondman · January 13, 2011 9:35AM

Probstein is one of the good guys, top notch all the way.

On the point of buying raw off a seller that sells graded cards: I prefer to buy raw off dealers that also have graded cards, because they are usually better at grading than those who don't submit cards to be graded.

Plus there are some raw cards that just aren't worth the time & trouble to have them graded. example: a 1960 PSA 5 Joe Jones sells for 20.00 and a raw 1960 EX Joe Jones sells for 12.00 to 18.00, why bother having it graded or a modern example; 1986 fleer PSA 8 Craig Hodges sells for 3 to 6 dollars and a raw sells for 1 to 2 bucks sometimes it is better to sell raw and let the other person roll the dice with grading fees & S/H sometimes they come back a PSA 7 and other times a PSA 8 or PSA 9. jmho

Probstein123 · March 27, 2011 9:25PM

hi, just wanna say I recently joined the boards...
having a great time...love the dialogue...
thanks for you kind words...
your appreciation is appreciated...

Probstein on eBay

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