Tuff Stuff Mag --- Gone

thekid8 · January 10, 2011 10:06PM

Not sure if this has been posted but Tuff Stuff is no more

Sorry to see it go

Ironmanfan · January 10, 2011 10:08PM

and SCD will now publish twice a month......

i remember when Tuff Stuff had a newspaper format back in the mid 1980's when it was run by Ernie White

IMF

itzagoner · January 10, 2011 10:11PM

so long old friend, i remember you when.....

Kid4hof03 · January 10, 2011 10:31PM

<< and SCD will now publish twice a month......

i remember when Tuff Stuff had a newspaper format back in the mid 1980's when it was run by Ernie White

IMF >>

I grew up 10 minutes from Ernie White's store, Collectors Corner. I remember when Tuff Stuff started as a newsletter for customers. My brother and friends and I used to walk to the shop and spend hours there every week, the good old days.

On a side note, I ended up standing in line to get into the National next to Mr. White this year. It was fun to spend 15 minutes talking with a voice from my youth, was completely worth the trip to Baltimore.

MBMiller25 · January 10, 2011 10:54PM

Sign of the times! Hate to see it go, but have certainly come to the realization that we are nowhere near the glory days of collecting back in the 80's and 90's.

larryallen73 · January 11, 2011 12:02AM

RIP

mlbfan2 · January 11, 2011 12:58AM

That is tuff news to hear.

ThoseBackPages · January 11, 2011 1:46AM

Sad News indeed.

SCD cant be far behind

vladguerrero · January 11, 2011 2:04AM

sad to see it go even though I hadn't bought one in a decade...

oldsailor · January 11, 2011 3:16AM

This is for Vlad Guerrero Collector. Can you e-mail me at: tsoconnell1959@gmail.com?

tks t.s. oconnell

ROCKDJRW · January 11, 2011 3:29AM

I understand it was supposed to be a price guide but did anyone ever use Tuff Stuff prices? The thing was huge but sadly 90% of it was a useless price guide. I also was a one time subscriber and let my subscription lapse years ago. I was done with both SCD and Tuff Stuff also because of the Coaches Corner advertising. I believe they stopped but it was to late. I realized I didn't miss getting them.

SportsCardCollector · January 11, 2011 4:38AM

I am a big believer that this hobby needs information flow if it is going to survive, so I have kept a subscription to Tuff Stuff going to try to support them. The prices of new products were not getting published in the magazine very quickly of late and I sensed that things were not going well. This thread was the first I had heard of them going under though.

There were some nice guys on the staff there that I had spoken with on the phone and I wish them the best whereever they end up. For the rest of us, I can't help but feel that this is another nail ...

SOM · January 11, 2011 4:42AM

I think O'Connell is a darned good writer. He will not have any trouble finding a new job.

Or better yet, maybe starting up his own sportscard magazine!

(When you (Krausse) sell out to the man (F&W), this inevitably occurs)

Nick

RookieWax · January 11, 2011 5:05AM

<< Sad News indeed.

SCD cant be far behind >>

Especially when they refuse to hear the voices of us that remain in the hobby(see the NNOF Thomas/related blackless errors thread). It's sad that they have all but ignored the story surrounding the discovery of the blackless errors connected to the 1990 Topps Frank Thomas - absolutely refusing to report on it among other things.

georgebailey2 · January 11, 2011 5:30AM

Sorry to hear this, particularly regarding T.S. O'Connell.

I think that the re-emphasis on articles has greatly improved SCD, although the concept of the periodical in this format is probably going to die eventually. It is not like the 80's where each new issue was like a large card show arriving at your door where you scoured each ad for something you wanted. Hopefully, they can figure out a way to maintain a sustainable level of advertising revenue. It is still a good venue for auction and show advertising.

Goodsport40 · January 11, 2011 7:57AM

Sad, but easy to see coming, I guess.

I hope SCD can make it as a bi-monthly. May have to give it try again.

Remember when some issues of SCD were so big that they split them into 2 sections! Man, that was a long time ago!

Robert

larryallen73 · January 11, 2011 8:11AM

For the rest of us, I can't help but feel that this is another nail ...

I do not think the the loss of a magazine says much about the future of card collecting. Do newspapers going out of business mean people don't read anymore? A monthly magazine is out of date before it's even shipped. We expect up to the minute information now. We expect information we can walk around with on our smart phones. We expect a whole bunch more than was expected when Tuff Stuff was in it's prime. Sure the number of collectors is down substantially since then but I don't think the demise of a magazine says much about the card collecting community. It's just a sign of the times: 1) internet rules all other forms of media and 2) these are tough economic times.

steelersyankees · January 11, 2011 8:14AM

The end is near.

RookieWax · January 11, 2011 8:32AM

<< For the rest of us, I can't help but feel that this is another nail ...

I do not think the the loss of a magazine says much about the future of card collecting. Do newspapers going out of business mean people don't read anymore? A monthly magazine is out of date before it's even shipped. We expect up to the minute information now. We expect information we can walk around with on our smart phones. We expect a whole bunch more than was expected when Tuff Stuff was in it's prime. Sure the number of collectors is down substantially since then but I don't think the demise of a magazine says much about the card collecting community. It's just a sign of the times: 1) internet rules all other forms of media and 2) these are tough economic times. >>

Great points you make....without ebay and the internet, the card publications would all still be doing well - even with the poor economy and declines in card values.

HoofHearted · January 11, 2011 11:07AM

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<< For the rest of us, I can't help but feel that this is another nail ...

I do not think the the loss of a magazine says much about the future of card collecting. Do newspapers going out of business mean people don't read anymore? A monthly magazine is out of date before it's even shipped. We expect up to the minute information now. We expect information we can walk around with on our smart phones. We expect a whole bunch more than was expected when Tuff Stuff was in it's prime. Sure the number of collectors is down substantially since then but I don't think the demise of a magazine says much about the card collecting community. It's just a sign of the times: 1) internet rules all other forms of media and 2) these are tough economic times. >>

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I was trying to think of how to reply with a thought similar to this. I agree whole heartedly.

thekid8 · January 11, 2011 10:46PM

Thought I would post a few memories
This is the Sept 1991 issue next to the July 2006 issue
HUGE magazine back then

Anyone have a 1989 Santa card --- what is the price today?

The issue came with these cards inside

Look at the prices for these HOFer's autographs

August 1991

Issue came with these postcards

Yep that is a Shane Gash card --- make me an offer

July 2006

They had these cards in the issue ~ I think there was a run of 4 or 5? issues with cards in them

weinhold · January 12, 2011 5:12AM

<< For the rest of us, I can't help but feel that this is another nail ...

I do not think the the loss of a magazine says much about the future of card collecting. Do newspapers going out of business mean people don't read anymore? A monthly magazine is out of date before it's even shipped. We expect up to the minute information now. We expect information we can walk around with on our smart phones. We expect a whole bunch more than was expected when Tuff Stuff was in it's prime. Sure the number of collectors is down substantially since then but I don't think the demise of a magazine says much about the card collecting community. It's just a sign of the times: 1) internet rules all other forms of media and 2) these are tough economic times. >>

I was about to write something similar. Good post.

tnspro · January 12, 2011 5:16AM

I always enjoyed Tuff Stuff...during the 90's that is. It couldn't wait to read it. Times they are a changin'

bking · January 12, 2011 5:21AM

I haven't read it in years, but it was the VCP of its time. I remember thinking, "wow, becket prices are so lame!! This mag has REAL sales-based prices!!"

ripkenintheminors · January 12, 2011 5:49AM

I loved Tuff Stuff growing up. As an adult the publication had a special place as they published an article that linked my site warning others about Ripken counterfeits. Where the site is today would not have happened without that type of endorsement.

mknez · January 12, 2011 9:08AM

Somebody asked for Santa? I pulled this last month!!

TheHun · January 12, 2011 10:54AM

YES - I remember when TUFF STUFF was a print newpaper.

I wrote my first article out of college (c.1984) - it made the front cover !

Too bad so many hobby magazines are falling by the wayside. But blogs are free ...

PS - if anyone has a copy of the 1984 Football cards issue, I would be interested. (PM me)

cheers

Blacklabelsociety · January 12, 2011 2:00PM

I still have a couple tuff stuff issues left. 1997 july Jordan cover and april 2000 Mcguire cover. the jordan issue has all the hof'ers listed and year they were inducted.

Ironmanfan · January 12, 2011 9:05PM

<< Somebody asked for Santa? I pulled this last month!!

>>

The hell with Tuff Stuff, what ever happened to Lud Denny?

IMF

fiveniner · January 12, 2011 11:29PM

Hate to see it go even though there was not to much to look at lately that really intrested me.I contributed to I believe 3 articles a few years back with opinions on certain older cards.

SCD has been with me since almost the beggining.I still subscribe to it and will continue as long as they continue to include articles on vintage material.

Tuff Stuff Mag --- Gone

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