Opinions on this 1914-D Lincoln

lkeigwin

This '14-D cent is raw. It is part of a collection left by a friend's father who died recently at 80. I found it among 5,000 wheaties. (I also found an S-VDB, a 1909-S, 1922-D, and 1931-S, all in roughly the same condition. None of his collection is graded by a TPG.)

Do you think it's genuine? I'm okay with the location of the mintmark and the spacing of the date numbers. And the D looks squarish and angled inside. But I'm still suspicious. I think it might be added. Seems to be canted a bit.

Looks like this coin was struck from well used dies and maybe that's confusing me.

The faint line from rim at 3K to rim at 7K is much less noticeable in hand. The lighting exaggerates it. It's hard to say, because it is very faint, but I initially guessed it was raised and from a die crack. Not so sure anymore. Could be an old scratch?

I was really excited about this for a while. But I'm talking myself out of it.

If you think it's real what grade would you give it?

Eventually PCGS will get this coin, along with the other finds. But not until I'm through (and I have six or eight Whitmans to go through and many hundreds of coins in flips).

Thanks for the help.
Lance.

dsessom

I'd guess XF40 ish, and yes its genuine.

tahoe98

...some interesting info here lance

stealer

<< <i>...some interesting info here lance >>



I never felt that you could create a thread on the diagnostics between a real and fake coin based on one fake. There are so many different ones that it's would be impossible to group them all.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I don't think it's a real 1914D

greatnortherncoin

added D

Flatwoods

The D doesn't look right to me.
There is alot going on with that coin though.

Thanks for posting it.

tightbudget

I vote fake

commoncents05

Fake.

-Paul

golfer72

The reverse also looks like it may have been cleaned.

anoldgoat

That is a worn die. And a larger D than I usually see on a 1914.

ArizonaJack

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, not diggin on it

DieClash

Send it in and find out. There are some LDS diemarkers on both sides of that coin that should help determine whether it it genuine or not. I'm no Lincoln cent expert, but it looks to me to have a good chance of bing the real McCoy.

jdimmick

Not genuine

cheezhed

Tooled

coinkid855

The D is too big. Added MM.



-Paul

rlarick

Of the 5 I have they all exhibit a die crack near the third fold of Lincoln’s shirt where it meets the over coat connecting it to the rim.

the mm isn't like any I have seen for that year

clw54

That doesn't even look like a real cent, but who knows.

coinman420

the mintmark looks off to me but i`m no expert. the pics i`m posting are small but this one graded at pcgs. your mintmark looks bigger and slightly to the right compared to this one below.

dsessom

There were 6 die pairs used to make the 1914-D, and this is one of the authentic ones. It is identical to the one below.

TexasNationals

The MM is wrong, in the wrong position and the die marker, the die crack from rim to bust is not there. Fake

TexasNationals

dsessom, your picture and the OP coin is not the same die. Follow the right and left of the D up tot the didgits, not even close.

GrumpyEd

It does look questionable but from the pics it's hard to be sure.

A few things to try:
A better pic of the MM would help.
There are several MM positions so you might need to compare it to many photos to see if any match.
Look close for the die crack on the vest heading to the rim. (many 14-Ds have it but some don't)
Look close for any sign of the VDB or sign that it was removed. (14-Ds don't have it)

BigE

The whole coin is fake, country of origin-I say Italy, around 1980----------------------BigE

droopyd

I don't like this one, not one bit.

If real, I'd grade it F details but excessive damage would keep it out of a graded holder.

PerryHall

Looks like an added mintmark. Put a drop of acetone on it to see if it desolves the glue and it falls off.

kurtdog

It looks good to me. If it is "added," it was "taken" from another 1914-D. The inside of the D has the traditional triangular shape.

FWIW, there's die wear and grease coming across on the reverse, and I could easy give that a middle-of-the road AU. Nice coin.

au58

What does this coin weigh?

lkeigwin

<< <i>There were 6 die pairs used to make the 1914-D, and this is one of the authentic ones. It is identical to the one below.

>>

Here's the one in question.
Lance.

lkeigwin

<< <i>What does this coin weigh? >>

3.00g. It's consistent with other wheaties in its state.
Lance.

AUandAG

That wear pattern seems off to me. Letters are just too mushy. MM is rounded.
All tells for a fake.

bob

JRocco

I wouldn't buy that with Bear's money Lance.

edited to add - And I am usually pretty liberal with Bear's money

ambro51

That piece was never inside a US Mint.


everything looks wrong. everything.

lkeigwin

<< <i>I wouldn't buy that with Bear's money Lance.

edited to add - And I am usually pretty liberal with Bear's money
>>

Ha. Me neither. I am not considering buying it. As I said in the OP I found this and others in a hoard.
Lance.

mr1931S

The serifs are way too prominent and the minmark should be more upright.

Good looking coin but I will go with.............

fake.

doorman292

Dwayne,
Look at this image. I have overlaid your photo on the suspect coin.
There are some unusual marks around the "9" and there appears to be some doubling above the 'D".

What do you think??

KP

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n630/6woamc/14-D.jpg

rlarick

^^^^^^^

clackamas

The entire coin is fake.

SaorAlba

I vote for early not so faithful "tribute" piece.