Representative Giffords shot in Arizona, gunman held
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Representative Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head while holding a public event in Tucson, Fox News and National Public Radio reported on Saturday.
Fox said 11 other people were shot when an unidentified gunman ran up and began shooting indiscriminately
Fox said 11 other people were shot when an unidentified gunman ran up and began shooting indiscriminately
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"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>All due respects to the deceased and her family, but was she a precious metal collector? >>
Why yes she was! how did you know?
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An earlier report from National Public Radio said Giffords had died.
"She is currently in surgery. She's alive," University Medical Center spokeswoman Darci Slaten told Reuters.
Slaten said there were nine other shooting victims at the hospital with serious injuries.
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"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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<< <i>I'm deeply Conservative...but this action sickens me. NOT the way to resolve problems...frickin' crazy people in this world sometimes...glad it's not my final home. >>
He also was anti-God, according to reports. This alone takes him clearly out of the conservative category.
Listing Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto as some of his favorite books, he does sound more like an extreme anarchist. How do you reconcile these two opposing ideologies any other way?
Looking at his YouTube video, what on earth does advocating a new coinage system have to do with what he did? It also appears to have been written by a self-involved ninth grader. I lost interest after the first few seconds.
<< <i>He also was anti-God, according to reports. This alone takes him clearly out of the conservative category. >>
Jesus was a liberal according to my faith.
We are given some hints in the Bible and the Catholic Church's teachings about whether Jesus would be a liberal or a conservative:
In Matthew 25:31-46, Jesus proclaims that how you treat the hungry, the thirsty, the sick and other "least of these," is how you treat Jesus himself. And if you fail to help the "least of these," Jesus promises, he will send you to Hell.
Catholic social doctrine holds that the resources of the earth, and the output of man's work, are meant to be shared equitably by all.
The Catholic Church calls for a "preferential option for the poor."
An overwhelming concern for the poor and for economic justice permeates the Old Testament.
There is the redistribution of wealth injunction of the Old Testament Jubilee Year, when slaves were released and land returned to its original owners.
<< <i>The shooter sounds like he came straight from the Tea Party. Demands for a new currency backed by gold and silver, filled with hatred, using violence against political opponents, etc. >>
He's 22 not sure he knows much about any thing except copy catting~JMO
I pray for the family's of victims.
Yogi Berra
And there has been a lot of hate speech and inciteful language on this board over the years... people, please remember that words can have an effect on people.
Your post is a prime example, as it is both grossly inaccurate and inflammatory. Follow your own advice and consider how your own words come across.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>The shooter sounds like he came straight from the Tea Party. Demands for a new currency backed by gold and silver, filled with hatred, using violence against political opponents, etc. >>
Your government would love nothing more than have everyone think like you - that nutcases are always the result of outspoken patriotism. Rest assured that this horrible murder is just another crisis to be used to the advantage of those that want your guns, your gold, your freedom and your money. This guy was completely wacho but I doubt it was because of any particular political party.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>A lot of right-wingers and Tea Partiers are scrambling to deflect responsbility for encouraging violence like this.
And there has been a lot of hate speech and inciteful language on this board over the years... people, please remember that words can have an effect on people. >>
back up what you say.
<< <i>3-2-1-poof! >>
shoulda been poofed at the first post
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i> This guy was completely wacho but I doubt it was because of any particular political party. >>
It's interesting that in 24 hours, the narrative from the right wing has become "the shooter was a liberal nut."
The source of that spin seems to be the disturbing memo published by Judson Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.
It was immediately clear that the TP supporters (Like Rush's dittoheads) are simply parroting what they have been told to say and think. In his memo, Phillips urged his Tea Party supporters to blame liberals for the attack.
“The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to “blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh” and “The tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth. The shooter was a liberal lunatic. Emphasis on both words.”
"All he did was play video games and play music," said Tommy Marriotti, a high school friend. Mr. Marriotti said much of Mr. Loughner's free time was devoted to the school band. He wasn't especially political, Mr. Marriotti said, though he expressed frustration with the Bush Administration.
Frank, I actually expect better even from you. You really are rolling around in the alley on this one...............MJ
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Take a look at your own words!
Gun control bill could be ready by Monday
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>Never waste a good crisis:
Gun control bill could be ready by Monday >>
Ironic. Wasn't Giffords pro guns? I remember a picture of her firing a rifle.............I could be mistaken. MJ
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<< <i>Never waste a good crisis:
Gun control bill could be ready by Monday >>
Ironic. Wasn't Giffords pro guns? I remember a picture of her firing a rifle.............I could be mistaken. MJ >>
Yes she was. She was also for tougher immigration. She didn't seem to be a typical member of the Pelosi/Reid cheerleading squad.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>A lot of right-wingers and Tea Partiers are scrambling to deflect responsbility for encouraging violence like this.
And there has been a lot of hate speech and inciteful language on this board over the years... people, please remember that words can have an effect on people. >>
The guy is insane. Spongebob probably had more to do with this than "right-wingers and Tea Partiers."
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
Their compassion to the victims of day to day crime is overwhelming.
Proving once again, some people in our hobby are just plain nuts!
But Jesus didn't want to take our guns away from us
See what I mean?
Not to mention Sheriff 'Dipstick' Dupnik!!!!
<< <i>Never waste a good crisis:
Gun control bill could be ready by Monday >>
It was chilling this weekend to see how supporters of the regime tried to extract policitical advantage from the Arizona shooting.
Thanks to the internet and alternative media they did not succeed (this time) in turning the shooting into their version of the "Reichstag Fire" to suppress political speech.
Until now opposing the agenda of the Executive Branch predictably led to being branded a racist. People aren't cowed by that tactic anymore. What's next is a push to criminalize political speech. Orwell described it best when he coined the phrase "thought crime".
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Your government would love nothing more than have everyone think like you - that nutcases are always the result of outspoken patriotism >>
Nope...nutcases are people who CALL THEMSELVES patriots.
The Patriot Movement is a loose collection of independent anti-government social movements in the United States beginning in the latter half of the 20th Century. It centers on a view that individual liberties are in jeopardy due to unconstitutional actions taken by elected government officials, appointed bureaucrats, and some special interest groups outside of government; to illegally accumulate power.
The reformist wing of the patriot movement is considered to have begun in 1958 with the formation of the John Birch Society and opposition to communism, the United Nations and the civil rights movement. An insurgent wing has been traced in origins to the Liberty Lobby active in the 1950s with promotion of themes of White supremacy and antisemitism. The patriot movement was highly active in the mid-1990s, but saw decline into the 2000s. In 2009 the movement again gained prominence in opposition to the presidency of Barack Obama. The Southern Poverty Law Center claims that Patriot movement ideas are more widely propagated today than in the 1990s, in part due to acceptance of its ideas by prominent politicians, mass media figures, and the Tea Party movement.
It now includes diverse conservative and libertarian causes addressing issues such as national sovereignty, State sovereignty, the United States Constitution, individual liberties including the Bill of Rights, and American exceptionalism. The political economy of the movement centers around the social contract. The movement's iconography centers on themes relating to the American Revolution, such as the colonial Minuteman, the 13-star "Old Glory" flag, Uncle Sam, and the painting titled "Spirit of 1776". Media outlets have associated the patriot movement with the right-wing militia movement.
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<< <i>Actually the killer didn't trust the government, and advocated a new coinage system
Proving once again, some people in our hobby are just plain nuts!
But Jesus didn't want to take our guns away from us
See what I mean? >>
Do you really think I thought there were Glock's back in 33 AD ??
p.s. ~ I pray that the Gifford's and the other victim's families can find peace.
Edited ~ because this thread is stupid and need's to be deleted !
<< <i>I happen to like Tom Brady a lot. MJ >>
Very possibly the greatest quarterback of all-time. Think of all the all the other great quarterbacks. Now think of their #1 receiver. Did Brady ever have a stud receiver, other than Moss for 2 years? Nope. The perfect quarterback, for the perfect system.
PS-Just adding to post count. LOL
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>A lot of right-wingers and Tea Partiers are scrambling to deflect responsbility for encouraging violence like this.
And there has been a lot of hate speech and inciteful language on this board over the years... people, please remember that words can have an effect on people. >>
I love you too!
<< <i>And there has been a lot of hate speech and inciteful language on this board over the years... people, please remember that words can have an effect on people.
Take a look at your own words! >>
I took a good look at my own words. I'll stick with them.
By the way, why did you assume that I meant right-wing hate speech? I guess because that's where the vast majority of it comes from?
As others have said, vigorous debate is healthy, even ridicule is part of politics, but the language of violence and of eliminating your enemies is not.
You like making things up, JW??....when did I say that???
The left needs to lash out because that's all they can do when they are cornered because of their own mis-statements.
Your side started this cr*p...try and deny that!!
The conservatives are left to defend themselves, while lefties like you stir the pot of lies in this most un-opportune time!
Now, I hope you go sell all your coins and just go away!
I knew it would happen.
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<< <i>And there has been a lot of hate speech and inciteful language on this board over the years... people, please remember that words can have an effect on people.
Take a look at your own words! >>
I took a good look at my own words. I'll stick with them.
By the way, why did you assume that I meant right-wing hate speech? I guess because that's where the vast majority of it comes from?
As others have said, vigorous debate is healthy, even ridicule is part of politics, but the language of violence and of eliminating your enemies is not. >>
You need to show proof of what you say exists. And I can guarantee you, I can provide clear proof of the left being the unhinged violent little turds. Just go back to the 2004 inauguration where tear gas had to be used on the vermin from the code pink and answer groups throwing objects. GOP convention in NYC where thhe crowds spit on people, threw objects, started fires. How about sound clip of Air America radio playing the sounds of gun shots when speaking about President Bush? How about Bill Maher wishing Cheney dead? PS go to youtube and look at the saved twitter posts who state publicly that Palin should be shot and killed. The trouble with liberals is they are just no damn good.
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