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Time to buy Barry Larkin RCs

ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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With 62% of the vote, it looks like he will be getting in within the next two years.

I've been looking for 1987 Fleer PSA 10's but haven't seen any in a while. Is someone hoarding them? ha ha

He does deserve to get in eventually. He gets overshadowed by Ripken and the roids boys (Nomaroid and ARoid), but he was the top SS in NL for a long time.
Mike

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  • ToroToro Posts: 1,515
    You can say the same thing for any of the players that people believe did it the right way.....as the percentages show......guilty roid players aren't getting in anytime soon.....the hardest part is seeing the players that have no solid evidence against them....get low percentages because the voters believe they used.
  • TomiTomi Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    NO. It's all 80's garbage. I LOVE 80's cards but I would never buy 80's for an investment. There are just too many cards out there that are going to drive the pops up always. Just look at what 4SC has done to the pops. I don't think that 80's cards will ever peak like they did years ago when the pops were less. Even PSA 10 Ripken Traded RC's were selling for over $2,000 years ago and now they are almost half of that. Just using him as an example since he is probably the most sought after from all 80's players.
    Collecting 80's for fun-YES. Collecting 80's for investment- NO.
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree that players who are perceived to be "clean" will get a few more votes than before. The two best examples are Jim Rice and Andre Dawson. When they retired, I didn't think they would ever get a chance to get in, especially Rice.

    Looking at the players with between 20% and 65%, I would say Larkin is a lock. Jack Morris and Tim Raines would be next. Lee Smith may have a shot. The rest will have a hard time. Bagwell had a decent first year %, but I think the upside is limited since their is a large block of voters that will never change their mind.

    I bet there are a few Tim Raines speculators that must be nervous about their bet. I noticed that his PSA 10 RCs were selling very well this year. I thought for sure he would get a bump to around 50%, but it looks like he has a long ways to go.
    Mike
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NO. It's all 80's garbage. I LOVE 80's cards but I would never buy 80's for an investment. There are just too many cards out there that are going to drive the pops up always. Just look at what 4SC has done to the pops. I don't think that 80's cards will ever peak like they did years ago when the pops were less. Even PSA 10 Ripken Traded RC's were selling for over $2,000 years ago and now they are almost half of that. Just using him as an example since he is probably the most sought after from all 80's players.
    Collecting 80's for fun-YES. Collecting 80's for investment- NO. >>



    1988 Score Traded Alomars PSA 10 were going for around $20 all year long until towards the end of the year. I saw a few go for $60 yesterday. Yes you can make money on 1980's cards if you BUY at the right price.
    Mike
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Well I wouldn't go buying up the Larkins this week or anything. He's getting a lot of attention right now (you're not the first one to spot his percentage), so let the hype die back down before buying low.
  • PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    I don't know if I would get that excited that Alomar's rookies were going at $60 yesterday. Yesterday was the day that he was elected to the Hall of Fame. He was about as big as he will ever be again. The question is, will that $60 card be worth that or more in 5-10 years when Alomar is just 'another' HOFer and isn't in the center of the media?
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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    But if he buys Larkins this spring or summer for say $10 per, and they sell for $30 per on the week he's announced next year, then he tripled his money. Tripling your money isn't all that bad.
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I wouldn't go buying up the Larkins this week or anything. He's getting a lot of attention right now (you're not the first one to spot his percentage), so let the hype die back down before buying low. >>



    True and by the lack of 1987 Fleer PSA 10s on ebay lately, I can assume that people are holding on to them. I wonder if the Tim Raines fans will continue the strong buying of the PSA 10s?

    As for the Alomar pop yesterday. I never said I would buy at $60, that ship has sailed and yes the price will fall (thought I doubt back to $20 again) after the interest declines.



    Mike
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭✭
    I hate that PSA recognizes Larkin's rookies as his trio from '87. He had a 1986 Sportflics Rookies card, his only card from 1986, which should be viewed as his one and only true rookie. If the '84 Fleer Update cards are the true rookies for Clemens and Puckett, then '86 SR should be for Larkin. I know Sportflics are not a collector favorite, but they were issued nationally, and there were quite a few sets made. Let's keep it consistent PSA!
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭✭
    Oh, and I'd consider Larkin to be a lock for the one and only player to be elected by the regular committee next year. Bernie Williams is the only first-time eligible player even worth consideration, but he'll fall well short, as he should. And none of the returning players will get enough consideration.
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok so after hes voted in will become the presedent of the US or something great? What else will he do to make this a great investment that I can retire off off?
    Should I but 10,000 or 1,000 shares of this penny stock?
  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok so after hes voted in will become the presedent of the US or something great? What else will he do to make this a great investment that I can retire off off?
    Should I but 10,000 or 1,000 shares of this penny stock? >>



    If you need this to retire, then you have bigger problems than the 2012 HOF Ballot.
    Mike
  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    I don't think Morris or Lee Smith will get in. Smith actually got less votes this year, Morris about the same.

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  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think Morris or Lee Smith will get in. Smith actually got less votes this year, Morris about the same. >>



    I agree that Lee will have a hard time since saves have been devalued. As a biased Tigers fan, I hope Jack does get in since no one else on the 1984 team has a shot. Just as sabermetrics made Bert's case, I hope that big game pitching makes Jack's case.
    Mike
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I was in college working as a bank teller I had the pleasure of cashing a check for Barry Larkin. The minute he walked into the bank I was like it is BARRY LARKIN!!!

    Super nice guy and a real class act.


    I love the 80's cards but still too many sealed packs and sets for investments in 80's baseball.



  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When I was in college working as a bank teller I had the pleasure of cashing a check for Barry Larkin. The minute he walked into the bank I was like it is BARRY LARKIN!!!

    Super nice guy and a real class act.


    I love the 80's cards but still too many sealed packs and sets for investments in 80's baseball. >>



    did you give him your flex pose?

    i always liked Barry..
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No gun display.

    The other ball player I cashed a check for was Johnny Damon.


    Neither of these guys would have any interest in the guns but a ton of rich cougars from Windermere certainly did.


  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    I don't think Morris or Lee Smith will get in. Smith actually got less votes this year, Morris about the same.

    Morris looks like he's going to get in eventually. He was at under 20% when he went on the ballot and now he's up to 53%. Pretty much the same steady climb that Bruce Sutter had. I think he's got 3 years left on the ballot and will probably get in on #14 or #15. I hope he does, he was one of the 3 or 4 most dominating pitchers of my era of growing up and watching baseball. He has 250+ wins and was the ace of three different World Series winning teams; I think that should be enough for someone to get in.
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭
    Watch out for saberman, Lee. If he reads that he'll talk mean about ya.
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  • SabermanSaberman Posts: 677
    Nah,

    CdsNuts is a cool kat.

    There may be a couple angles to make some sort of case for Morris, but it isn't wins, and certainly not 'pitching to the score'. A few years ago I was trying my best to find a way to merit his induction. I think I found some sort of angle...but I forgot what it was. It was a reach.

    When you have a guy like Tiant not in, it is pretty hard to put Morris in.

    And if you were going to put those famous tags of "big game pitcher", "Ace of a WS team," and dominant at his peak....there is a guy that has all those at a higher level than Jack Morris, and his name is Orel Hershiser.
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  • minnesotahuskerminnesotahusker Posts: 642 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When I was in college working as a bank teller I had the pleasure of cashing a check for Barry Larkin. The minute he walked into the bank I was like it is BARRY LARKIN!!!

    Super nice guy and a real class act.


    I love the 80's cards but still too many sealed packs and sets for investments in 80's baseball. >>



    My sister lived in Cincy several years ago at the end of his career. Her roommate had some encounters with him while living there. That's all I've got to say about that.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i> Her roommate had some encounters with him while living there. That's all I've got to say about that. >>

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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know if I would get that excited that Alomar's rookies were going at $60 yesterday. >>



    Links? PSa 9's from glossy traded were on 40 last night, maybe I missed something, also entire 88 glossy traded sets are sitting at 99 bucks
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    Let's say you buy a certain Larkin card for $20 today and two years from now you can sell for $60 (maybe)... and 4 weeks later it's worth $20 agin. Ok, so you might make forty bucks per card. How many could you possibly sell when the HOF spike happens? 5? 10? There are not going to be that many buyers. I'll check Alomar closed auctions in a couple days but I bet the actual numbers of sales will not be that high. I just can't see this being a great investment. Sure it's cool if you buy one or two today, sell them for the big profit, but in the end it's not going to fund your retirement.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Even if Larkin gets in, I agree w/ Larryallen that it won't do much for his cards because there are so many of them. There are about 600 of his 87F rookies graded 9 or 10 by PSA. And that's just his Fleer rookies, and that's just PSA. I'm sure there are several hundred more Fleers graded by BGS in 9 or better. Between all the grading companies and all brands of '87 sportscards (not to mention the glossys and tiffanys), you're talking thousands of Larkin cards in 9 or better. And you'll likely see hundreds more submissions of his RCs if he does get in.

    More than enough cards to meet the demand and keep prices down. I bet you'll only see his PSA 10s go from $15 to $25.

    Sutter was a little different because his rookie was from '77T. Much tougher to find 9s and 10s from that year, and once he finally made the HOF, there weren't thousands of his RCs out there, already graded and waiting to be sold.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    Sutter was a little different because his rookie was from '77T. Much tougher to find 9s and 10s from that year, and once he finally made the HOF, there weren't thousands of his RCs out there, already graded and waiting to be sold.

    Exactly.
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