1982 Variation People - Doug Bair Question?

mcolney1

Just going through some stuff and noticed this:



Note the printer cross hair going through the O in Doug on the card on the left. Is this a variation?

Tony

Ironmanfan

no

dazedandamazed

I notice that the auto isnt so dark on the cross hair version
any connection to the "blackless" ?
doubt it, but I threw it out there

bishop

Not blaclkess related. Printer's mark ? They show up on occassion

dazedandamazed

the black didnt run out all at once
it was gradual

yankeeno7

Why not a variation? Look at what the 89 Fleer Jeff Treadway sells for. That one has a similar crosshair. I think its pretty cool. Though I know it would not command much of a premium, there are definitely collectors for stuff like this out there.

mikeschmidt

<< <i>Why not a variation? Look at what the 89 Fleer Jeff Treadway sells for. That one has a similar crosshair. I think its pretty cool. Though I know it would not command much of a premium, there are definitely collectors for stuff like this out there. >>



If you could find 10, 20 or 100 similar Bair's, then it would be a variation. Treadway was removed because it looked like a target. When it is only one that exists...it is not a variation, as it does not reflect a conscious choice by the manufacturer to remove...rather, it slipped through QC by accident.

pclpads

Hate to sound "old school," but this is just a printing flaw - nothing more, and not not a variation like true variations in '58T YL and WL.

bishop

A "true variation"...and what exactly is that by definition ? A card intentionally changed by the manufacturer ? The 58 Herrer, the 57 Bakep, and the 52 Campos black star are all high priced "variations", but all 3 are just print defects. Are all the 62 greenies variations, or only print defects except for the pose changes ? In some cases, like the 59 trade/option cards and the 3 Spahn DOB cards it is fairly clear. Others listed variations are not so clear. The entire 82 Blackless set mentioned earlier ( 396...or 400 by some counts) is just a run of print defects, but they fetch a premium and are recognized in the catalogs ( they can be found without any black ink or in light gray )

An endless debate exacerbated by all the print defects being discovered thanks to internet scans