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What are the biggest lesson(s) you learned in collecting this year?

AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
Looking back, I learned many things. Here are my top few:

1. Just because someone is a board member, doesn't mean they are trustworthy. I am out about $600 from trying to buy from board members this year. Chalk it up to a loss, but it still stings.

2. Altered/puttied gold can be in problem free slabs! I never realized how coin doctors can alter the surfaces of gold coins. Thankfully I didnt learn this by making a mistake.

3. Yesterdays problem free coins, can be a problem coin today.

How about you?
All coins kept in bank vaults.
PCGS Registries
Box of 20
SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doilies are where you find them!

    Drunner
  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    That a 70cm x 70cm Hermès Très Kelly silk scarf is not practical as a pocket handkerchief...but that's another forum.

    With respect to numismatics I have learned I'm much happier/satisfied with 2-3 really nice coins versus a collection per se and
    that I derive most of my numismatic pleasure from reading about coins and collecting a few special edition coin books.
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  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880


    When you think you just gotta have it, relax, it'll pass.
    Every man is a self made man.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    You can't take them with you.image
    Becky
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    In 2010, I learned that markets can be made solely in the PCGS Coin Forum.

    I also learned that a "market" may consist of 15 or less individuals and when that "market" is satisfied, it dies.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408


    << <i>

    << <i>That a 70cm x 70cm Hermès Très Kelly silk scarf is not practical as a pocket handkerchief...but that's another forum.

    With respect to numismatics I have learned I'm much happier/satisfied with 2-3 really nice coins versus a collection per se and
    that I derive most of my numismatic pleasure from reading about coins and collecting a few special edition coin books. >>



    except for the first sentenceimage >>



    Trust me Realone; I've tried...the 70cm Hermès scarves are too bulky for a suit/jacket breast pocket...better to stay with
    the Hermès 16" by 16" silk handkerchiefs...

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  • Biggest lesson learned this year was USPS insurance is useless
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My silver coins went up in value. from one dollar per dime to two dollars per dime. I'm hopin' a few of my friends would figger the math out, but they keep sayin' "I shoulda got some last year".
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether you're rich or poor...it's nice to have money.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Biggest lesson learned this year was USPS insurance is useless >>



    Do tell!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • Trust your instincts.
    "I find that a great part of the information I have was acquired by looking up something and finding something else on the way." - Franklin Pierce Adams

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A coin is like a book
    It does not have to be investment grade to bring
    Maximum enjoyment

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>That a 70cm x 70cm Hermès Très Kelly silk scarf is not practical as a pocket handkerchief...but that's another forum. With respect to numismatics I have learned I'm much happier/satisfied with 2-3 really nice coins versus a collection per se and that I derive most of my numismatic pleasure from reading about coins and collecting a few special edition coin books. >>

    except for the first sentenceimage >>

    Trust me Realone; I've tried...the 70cm Hermès scarves are too bulky for a suit/jacket breast pocket...better to stay with the Hermès 16" by 16" silk handkerchiefs... image >>



    Are you a Lord or a Duke, or both?

  • Do your homework...I decided to become more of an active collector this year, rather than a passive one (buy a few things, let them sit and forget).

    Picking up Eric's book and joining this forum have expanded my knowledge by leaps and bounds.
    Successful transactions with keepdachange, tizofthe, adriana, wondercoin
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Quality is better than bulk

    Completing and finishing a set are not the same thing.

    Widgets are a distraction

    Auctions are a collectors best friend

    Trust your instincts

    Sell a mistake as soon as possible and do not look back


    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    collect what is interesting to me

    buy from coin shops and people i know

    never lose interest in collecting

    2003-Present

  • As much as I want to get back into coins I still *think* I know comics better. Maybe this year I will add coin #2 to the collection.
  • I've learned that everything I like/want is really, really expensive!image
  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    1) Collect what I enjoy looking at

    2) Building a set from circulation will always be more fun than buying one

    3) And, for a relative novice like myself, sticking to bullion-based coins is a good idea

    I also agree with the advice to give myself time to "cool off" when I get overly-excited about a new coin or series.
    Winner of the Coveted Devil Award June 8th, 2010
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've learned how to give up on perfectly good coins.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've learned how to give up on perfectly good coins. >>



    Care to explain Andy?
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭
    That I need more Money!
    ED
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << I've learned how to give up on perfectly good coins. >>

    Care to explain Andy?


    Before this year, I would very rarely give up on a coin that hadn't yet graded as I expected. I would resubmit until it worked or until someone paid me "shot money" (an in-between price) for the coin. This year, it became so easy to buy and so difficult to get a proper grade that I had to change my ways. Now, I'm much quicker to shrug my shoulders at a bad grade and dump the coin.

    Along the same lines, I used to buy lots of esoteric coins with thin markets, and I would hold them until they sold for what I thought was a decent price. Now, the market for good coins is even thinner than it was, and I find myself much quicker to dump a good coin at a cheap price just because I've had it too long. I'd almost rather buy junk now, because people understand junk and it sells fast.


    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • Never blindly trust anyone......but then I learned that long before 2010.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When the bullion market gives you the chance to unload some material you were buried in ... do so quickly ... and don't look back.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Never ship the goods until the funds are cleared regardless of who the buyer is.
  • 1. Quality can be found inside of Quantity

    2. I like finding Lincoln Memorial Cents with Full Steps.

    3. CherryPicking your own collection is almost too much fun.

    4. Making your first discovery coin is also almost too much fun.

    5. Also Finding two second known specimen's in the same evening is cool too.
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buying raw on ebay can, and many times does, have its rewards. The same goes for selling. Plastic selling on the same venue has a limited price structure if you sell honestly.

    Ken
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    No matter how hard you try, you cannot force another collector to like the series that you collect.
    Chat Board Lingo

    "Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen


  • << <i>When the bullion market gives you the chance to unload some material you were buried in ... do so quickly ... and don't look back. >>


    This is good advice and could be expanded to include if you have the chance to get out of any undesirable coin take it.
  • .........that there are far , far more A.T coins in TPG slabs then I ever imagined .......


  • << <i>Looking back, I learned many things. Here are my top few:

    1. Just because someone is a board member, doesn't mean they are trustworthy. I am out about $600 from trying to buy from board members this year. Chalk it up to a loss, but it still stings. >>



    What happened here? I would be a lil angry. In fact, Im a lil angry for you!...lol
    Chaz

    Proud recipient of Y.S. Award on 07/26/08.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The learning curve is even steeper then I thought................MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In 2010, I learned that markets can be made solely in the PCGS Coin Forum.

    I also learned that a "market" may consist of 15 or less individuals and when that "market" is satisfied, it dies. >>


    19Lyds, I totally agree with your comments. First collected Jeffersons and was amazed that in two years I had met most of the
    top registry set participants at shows.
    Much smaller world than I believed.
    Now into Lincolns, much larger audience. Still have grown to know most of the top players and I am not one of them. Shag
  • Don't presell on ebay, even if you know your stuff is coming from the mint!

    Just kidding....
    Successful transactions with keepdachange, tizofthe, adriana, wondercoin
  • drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭
    My 2010 lesson: Buy what I like (as long as lots of others like them too), narrow and focus my collection (I'm down to a box of 52), coins are like women (the game is all about the hunt/acquisition, not the having--sorry ladies), and don't fool myself into believing that I'll ever make money selling coins--the only people who make money are the people who are selling to me and others like me! image
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looking back, I learned many things. Here are my top few:

    1. Just because someone is a board member, doesn't mean they are trustworthy. I am out about $600 from trying to buy from board members this year. Chalk it up to a loss, but it still stings. >>



    What happened here? I would be a lil angry. In fact, Im a lil angry for you!...lol >>



    See my sigline. PM me for details, way too long to post here!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭✭
    It is not so much the little metal discs themselves, as it is the people with whom you share your interest in those little pieces of metal.
    image Respectfully, Mark
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Originality is always superior to a problem coin no matter the grade of the original coin!

    Rarity trumps all
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Enjoyment costs a lot less than people realize.
    When one of my customers bought a digital microscope after seeing a demonstration in my shop, he returned with renewed vigor to buy wheat cents and mercury dimes to search. He doesn't spend a lot, but he said he's like a kid in a candy store all over again. That's a huge lesson in "enjoyment". A bag of wheaties do not have to have much of an anomaly to get him "re-charged". The fun is finding. He could not see my varieties on coins with a loupe any more. With that digital microscope, he's got new eyes.

    Isn't that cool ? Watching an old man beam ?

    Lessons are many. I talk too much.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The learning keep keeps on getting reinvented.

    Progress now requires fluidity in pluses, minuses, cacronyms, secures, etc.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In 2010, I learned that markets can be made solely in the PCGS Coin Forum.

    I also learned that a "market" may consist of 15 or less individuals and when that "market" is satisfied, it dies. >>



    2) Sooooo true, and sometimes many fewer players at that

    1) image

    Incisive analysis
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also learned that a "market" may consist of 15 or less individuals and when that "market" is satisfied, it dies. >>



    2) Sooooo true, and sometimes many fewer players at that




    The corollary, of course, is that sometimes it only takes a few players to bring a dead market to life.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • I have learned - that you should not give information to coin dealers when asking for more pics. That they are a paranoid lot and think everyone who asks questions is out to make their life miserable.

    I have learned that a lot of people on here will take small comments out of context and ignore the plot or overall intentions to judge people.

    I have also learned that here on CU - there are those who will turn your listings into eBay for not having pictures of both sides of a slab, in spite of listing photos that show microscopic coin details and cert #'s and that you can finally reorganize your listings into a manner that you like since your first stab at it was exactly that, a stab in the dark.

    Thanks!
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> ....The corollary, of course, is that sometimes it only takes a few players to bring a dead market to life. >>



    Logical, but it usually takes years for a market segment to recover after it craters because of psychological issues about price momentum downward (self-fulfilling prophecy) and accumulated over-supply.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have learned - that you should not give information to coin dealers when asking for more pics. That they are a paranoid lot and think everyone who asks questions is out to make their life miserable. >>



    Maybe on Ebay or small-time dealers, but any dealer worth his salt will try to make potential customers happy. And the questions may initiate a richer dialogue. You can always look at the pictures after asking the question and have new questions.

    Of course the less expensive the coin the less service you will get, at least until you have established yourself as a worthwhile customer. It's a two-way street. You must put aside your reservations and cover your risks at the same time, but a bit of frustration is not the same thing as getting ripped off.

    And remember, all generalizations are bad.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell


  • << <i>

    << <i>I have learned - that you should not give information to coin dealers when asking for more pics. That they are a paranoid lot and think everyone who asks questions is out to make their life miserable. >>



    Maybe on Ebay or small-time dealers, but any dealer worth his salt will try to make potential customers happy. And the questions may initiate a richer dialogue. You can always look at the pictures after asking the question and have new questions.

    Of course the less expensive the coin the less service you will get, at least until you have established yourself as a worthwhile customer. It's a two-way street. You must put aside your reservations and cover your risks at the same time, but a bit of frustration is not the same thing as getting ripped off.

    And remember, all generalizations are bad. >>



    Thank you! that is sage advice and I concur. I was being sarcastic and snide. It was in relation to a lengthy Christmas Day Thread I created asking for insight on why I was blocked for asking for better pictures of 2 CAC's 65RD coins that were being sold together. By the end of the thread some were posting that anyone who deals in coins here will have now put me on their blocked list. image
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Big Auctions can be Fun!

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