Can a slightly bent coin ever be graded?

coin22lover

Would a 190 year old coin in the $500 area ever make it into a graded holder if it was ever-so-slightly bent? I could not tell until I laid it flat onto a table and notice there was a very slight wobble when face up.

ChrisRx

I would say "no" unless it is a Chain Cent

AnkurJ

Or a half disme, 1794 dollar, 1804 dollar etc

LotsoLuck

2x4 and a hammer

coin22lover

I mean it's so slightly bent that you wouldn't know it unless you did the table test, and even then it's ever so slight.

Moldnut

Yes and they get green beans too

coin22lover

^^^ wow

AnkurJ

<< <i>^^^ wow >>

x2

Moldnut

Door #1 $500 same coin door #2 $1,400 do your homework!

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Moldnut

You would think

notwilight

I'd say need needs to be more than 190 years old.

A 190 yr old chain cent would be counterfeit.

--Jerry

Broadstruck

Place it in a vise padded with thick leather on each of the jaws so the coin doesn't get marred... If it's just slightly bent it should straighten it right out.

commoncents05

There is a pretty severely bent 1796 Quarter in a PCGS holder.

-Paul

Broadstruck

<< <i>Yes and they get green beans too


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I bet that coin was straightened prior to PCGS submission.

DonWillis

Yes, all legitimate 1812/1 Large 8 half dollars are bent. This is why the reverse is always a grade or two better than the obverse.

adamlaneus

<< <i>Yes, all legitimate 1812/1 Large 8 half dollars are bent. This is why the reverse is always a grade or two better than the obverse. >>



Really?!? Fascinating. Were the dies cupped?

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Moldnut

That could very well be, but the wear patterns would have to make you wonder.

Bear

I don.t know nothing about no bent coin,

but I have been bent a few times, in my coin

collecting.

notwilight

<< <i>Place it in a vise padded with thick leather on each of the jaws so the coin doesn't get marred... If it's just slightly bent it should straighten it right out. >>



Have you ever tried this or seen it work? I don't think it will work and do not recommend trying it.

--Jerry Stephenson, AB Physics U of Chicago, MS NE U of Il, PE Mechanical Engineering, State of CA

jdillane

bent is fine so long as its as struck.

Priller

<< <i>bent is fine so long as its as struck. >>



Here's an example of that, defined as "slightly buckled planchet" ... Heritage ... I still have it.

Broadstruck

<< <i>Have you ever tried this or seen it work? I don't think it will work and do not recommend trying it. >>



I've done it with coins that had been shot, holed, and completely disfigured.

A vise is a far safer approach then the recommendation of 2 chuck of wood and a hammer.

notwilight

A coin that is bent has been stressed beyond yield to create a permanent strain. To straighten it, you need to stress it in the opposite direction, just returning it to flat with the vice jaws will almost certainly not result in a flat coin. I also know from experience trying to hold things to work on them that leather straps over vice jaws is not totally effective in protecting objects. You can buy soft vice jaws with magnetic backs that would be better. Still, you would need to place a bending fulcrum, such as a wire under a leather patch, across the peak of the bend in order to create a bending moment in the opposite direction.

--Jerry

COINB0Y

Dan Carr has a press that can bend it back and then some ;>

TomB

Some MA silver coinage was produced on wavy planchets and these are certified as problem-free. Of course, they were made this way and this is not the same thing as post-mint damage.

messydesk

I would think that a slightly bent coin in lowish grade that has been straightened would be holdered as "bent and straightened" were the damage details spelled out. The wear pattern of a bent or formerly bent coin is pretty distinctive.

Tdec1000

Depends on how bad it was bent... I have seen some seated coins that were slightly bent put back into shape if you will by a nice thick encyclopedia and a sledge hammer. You couldn't even tell it was ever bent at all. probably 500 or so pages of paper on either side kept the coin safe.

renomedphys

<< <i>A coin that is bent has been stressed beyond yield to create a permanent strain. To straighten it, you need to stress it in the opposite direction, just returning it to flat with the vice jaws will almost certainly not result in a flat coin. I also know from experience trying to hold things to work on them that leather straps over vice jaws is not totally effective in protecting objects. You can buy soft vice jaws with magnetic backs that would be better. Still, you would need to place a bending fulcrum, such as a wire under a leather patch, across the peak of the bend in order to create a bending moment in the opposite direction.

--Jerry >>


Aaah, another scientifically minded person Good man! And ...

commoncents05

Link to Heritage sale.