British/Scottish question

BillyKingsley

Just a quick question- I know that coins were minted with the English coat of arms and with the Scottish coat of arms. Did they circulate all togther, like the US State Quarters of 99-09, or did the Scottish crested coins only circulate in Scotland?

This seems to be a program that is no longer done, the coins I am specifically talking about are late 40s/early 50s.

I am wondering if I should list them in my collection under Great Britian with a notation of which crest/coat of arms they have, or if the Scottish coins should be listed under Scotland.

Thanks in advance!

wybrit

The Scottish and English reverses both circulated freely around the UK. It is typical to list both types under Great Britain.

SaorAlba

Indeed, they were released into general circulation all over Britain. Usually the Scottish reverses had lower mintages though. Postage stamp issues were fairly specific to that part of Britain that they were for though, but of course you could use Scottish stamps in England - they just didn't sell them there.

7Jaguars

George VI through Elizabeth II, 1937 -1970 (OK not counting Edward VIII ). They always have seemed to go together in all the catalogs and IMO also belong with Great Britain. Not a lot of interest in the 1957 & 1959 "S" or 1958 "E" shillings even in high grade or proof.

MacCrimmon

Scots are the superior breed.

SaorAlba

I have other "moderns" with Scottish themes, but quite frankly, after 1707 my interests drop off precipitously an' I dunna image them.

JamesMurray

I agree Saor Alba , the early Scots coins are fascinating and make up the bulk of what i have.I'm old enough to remember that in England they wouldnt accept a Scottish banknote while in Scotland we accepted English and Irish notes and still do.Although England no longer has a pound note Scotland does.I can recall public houses accepting US dollars in Scotland with no qualms.All in all a strange history to the currency.

SaorAlba

<< <i>I agree Saor Alba , the early Scots coins are fascinating and make up the bulk of what i have.I'm old enough to remember that in England they wouldnt accept a Scottish banknote while in Scotland we accepted English and Irish notes and still do.Although England no longer has a pound note Scotland does.I can recall public houses accepting US dollars in Scotland with no qualms.All in all a strange history to the currency. >>



Deeper south in Angland they will still pass over a Scots note. I remember in Paris a few years ago(pre-Euro), the currency bourses bought Northern Ireland notes at a 1% discount, English at the current rate, and most curiously Scottish banknotes at a 1% premium over English notes - apparently they were easier to have paid.

Scottish banknotes as a group had much more likelihood of redemption over time than any other notes in other countries. No doubt due to joint stock banking and one for all, all for one attitude that previously was prevalent in Scottish banking. Failures were rare, in sharp contrast to England, where early in the 19th century up until the passage of the Banking Act of 1845 they were rather the rule. So thus, early Scots notes are particularly skint for collectors, I recently bought a BoS Guinea from 1810, a long sought find.

Sapyx

<< <i>This seems to be a program that is no longer done, the coins I am specifically talking about are late 40s/early 50s. >>


The modern equivalent in Britain would be the one pound coins, with specific designs not only for England and Scotland, but for Wales and Northern Ireland too. The only difference is the issues rotate between the countries in a five-year rotating order (Great Britain, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, England), rather than being issued simultaneously.

BillyKingsley

Thank you all for the comments! I will keep them listed under Great Britian then, with the notation. Once I get the scans edited properly perhaps I will post them in the thread, provided I can still find it