Interesting 1853 Double Eagle - Details revealed....

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REALGATOR
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Does anyone see a reason why this coin should be excluded from receiving a no-problem numeric grade?

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I'll reveal the details later...

Ok, we have a smart class...
Can you believe this got slabbed? For anyone who's gotten a "Details" grade or bodybag for a small staple scratch, this makes you scream.

From a Heritage auction and yes both photos appear in the auction:


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  • epcjimi1
    epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    Graffiti?
  • joebb21
    joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Perhaps the inscription on the coin?
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  • STONE
    STONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
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    ...the signature in the left Obverse field?
  • richardshipp
    richardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
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    Still can't quite make out what it says....

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  • richardshipp
    richardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
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    Are we sure the writing isn't on the slab?
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  • REALGATOR
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    You can get an ultra-closeup on their website. The metal has been etched.
  • coinguy1
    coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Still can't quite make out what it says....

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    It says "I can't believe NGC graded this. Congratulations to the lucky submitter".image
  • richardshipp
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  • sonofagunk
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    is the bottom word Counterfeit?
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  • USMoneylover
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    << <i>thanks for the info, but couldn't someone have split open the slab and put another of the same year in, they are common no, but how could ngc miss such a blatant issue so i vote a crack job or not real? >>



    I agree.
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  • rld14
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    I bet the graffiti is on there and I bet NGC missed it. They're human, they make mistakes, stuff happens...
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  • robkool
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    I vote crack-out job, then resealed...
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  • lordmarcovan
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    I think they actually missed the graffiti.

    In their halfhearted defence, I'll say that it isn't that difficult to overlook on some coins. I once had a Seated quarter with an inscription that you could only see when it was at a particular angle to the light. Very, very faint. And yet in scans and most photos, the graffiti on that piece jumped right out. It was actually fairly ornate script- somebody's name. I thought it was kind of neat.

    I suspect this piece is like that. Which doesn't excuse them from overlooking it, but I can see how it might have gotten past 'em if they weren't paying full attention. ('Twas probably graded on a Monday morning, before everyone had had their coffee.)

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