RIP Ron Santo
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Passed away last night of complications from bladder cancer.
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RIP.
IMF
Belonged in the HOF a long time ago.
RIP Ron.
loved his passion... very sad day..
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
Mike
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Doug
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RIP.
Ron.. is "Thee Cub"
"Molon Labe"
The man upstairs decided to pitch to you and of course -------- you got hit by the pitch !
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with all of the "steriod users up for votes"-- Time for a write-in campaign--get him next year!!!!!!
nice little article on him at CNN
Ron Santo
Cubs vs Brewers
Santo - this guy (Ruben) Quevedo, you know, we used to have a guy who looked just this guy. Same mechanics, same build, same stuff.
Pat Hughes - Quevedo pitched here with the Cubs the last few years Ronnie
Santo (an inning later) you know, I think this is the same guy who pitched for us.
Pat Hughes - this just proves these broadcasts are indeed live.
<< <i>I never could understand how a team with Santo, Banks and Williams didn't win the pennant. >>
sheesh, really.
if only any of them could pitch.
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<< <i>I never could understand how a team with Santo, Banks and Williams didn't win the pennant. >>
sheesh, really.
if only any of them could pitch.
Yep, Hardball Times has a couple of great articles about those Williams/Banks/Santo teams.
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I'd still like to see him get in the HOF. --- Sonny
no it's a Romito.
<< <i>Good player , good person.
I'd still like to see him get in the HOF. --- Sonny >>
Just a great player, and one of the classiest guys in the history of baseball- and I say that as someone who doesn't care about the Cubs, and has no personal relationship at all with diabetes. Every BBWAA mouthbreather who put guys like Rice and Dawson in the HOF and didn't vote for Santo should have their credentials revoked immediately.
<< <i>Nothing against Santo, but I don't know if you could call Brooks the 'lesser player' of the two. 16 GGs to go with good offensive #s, an MVP, and a bunch of top 5 MVP years too. Would be an interesting decision if a GM had to pick one or the other - can't really go wrong either way. RIP. >>
Ask Derek Jeter or Palmiero what those GG's say about your defensive prowess.
Edit to add: The above post sounds a little more smart-ass than I intended. You're right; both were great players. But I think Santo gets the nod by a fair margin if you had to pick between the two.
"Molon Labe"
<< <i>We're running out of players like Ron who's name becomes synonymous with their team. Chicago was blessed to have him. I never could understand how a team with Santo, Banks and Williams didn't win the pennant. >>
Trading Lou Brock to the Cardinals didn't help.
Apparently you missed the part where I pointed out that Santo is #59 all-time in Win Shares (which is the best metric to evaluate past players & their eras), where Robinson isn't even in the top 100. Or that Santo's career OPS is over a hundred points higher. I put zero stock in "GGs" but I acknowledge that Robinson was a moderately better defender. But it's not like Santo was Brooks Conrad out there. Santo won 5 himself, and had a stronger arm and came in on the ball better than Robinson. In 9 fewer seasons Santo still outhomered Robinson by 80 and still kept pace in RBIs...16 fewer than Robinson in 2500 fewer ABs. Neither had any speed, but Santo stole more bags. What can you possibly say Robinson was better than Santo in? Range as in his patented backhand on the line?...maybe throwing accuracy, or that he was quieter on the field. I'm not trashing Robinson, I'm just saying if Robinson is in the HOF then Santo has to be in too. Robinson played on better teams and was a moderately better defender and that's pretty much it. Oh yeah, Santo also had that whole diabetes thing while playing 81 home day games.
<< <i>The fact he will most likely be put into the HOF after he died pisses me off >>
+1
It's a travesty that someone who was that great a player and that passionate about the game and especially the Cubs could not get the honor during his lifetime. The world was robbed of one heck of an acceptance speech. RIP Ron.
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"Molon Labe"
<< <i>Keith goes after HOF for not voting Ron in. Ignore the first 20 sec or so Santo >>
Way to go, Keith! I only wish you and people like you had spoken up when Ron was still with us.
Let's hope the Veterans Committee gets their heads out of you know where and corrects their mistake, even though Ron won't be there to enjoy it (would have been an awesome induction speech!).
- John Wooden
4 players with
2000 Hits
300 HRs
1300 RBIs
Aaron
F.Robinson
Billy Williams
Santo