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Discovery Piece - Capped Bust Dime 1834 JR-4 with Reverse Cud!!!

My mind is in euphoria right now! image

Thanksgiving was extra Thankful to me this year by providing me the high bid necessary to win the following coin.
This is the FIRST EVER example of an 1834 JR-4 (R3, formerly R5) Bust Dime with a Reverse Cud. In fact, there is
not even mention of any die cracks in the area of the cud mentioned in Davis, et al.'s EUSD. And while it may
not be the prettiest coin to look at, when there's only 1 Known you really can't complain about condition as much!
I would describe this as a Fine details, obverse dig between *11-12 and rim nick between *9-10, an old cleaning
which has since begun to re-crust, Full Cud over IT in UNITED.

What this means is that this die marriage likely went through its entire production run before a small portion of
the reverse die suddenly broke off. The die was quickly removed, likely striking less than 50 planchets (as per the
2% survival rule of most Bust Dime Die Marriages), and this is the only example known to survive to the modern era.
Or, Mint employees saw the Cud on many of the struck coins and attempted to remove all flawed pieces from
entering circulation. It's amazing to think that if this coin was never found, Bust Dime collectors would have never
known that the reverse die used to strike this die marriage was retired because the die broke! I think that's pretty
interesting!

This is now the 31st Cud (Retained or Full) in the Capped Bust Dime series, and the current rarest next to the 1831
JR-6 (the only other R8 Cud in the series).


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P.S. I have one more SUPER RARE Bust Dime to share with these boards, but I won't reveal it until the January FUN show.
If you see me at the show make sure to ask to see it, I'd love to give you the sneek-peek before I post it to these boards! image

Comments

  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Sweet pick-up! Well done!
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Thanks Billet. image

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great discovery, Stone! Congratulations!

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    Great pickup...I have an example of this variety, mine displays a die crack at the top of the letters N I T....Not sure if that is common or uncommon though.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,523 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great pickup...I have an example of this variety, mine displays a die crack at the top of the letters N I T....Not sure if that is common or uncommon though. >>



    post a pic if you can
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Way to go Winston. Looking forward to seeing it at FUN.

    Also, looking forward to seeing the other DIME, I have known about this one since last spring!
  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    After I post this I am going to attempt better pictures that show the cracks. I can also see on my example that a die crack runs from between the denticles to the top of the T
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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Dang it, Winston! I think I might have to get into these CBD's!! You're doing quite well for yourself with them. I can't wait to see how you make out with your other find!! Congrats, man! I hope to see you at FUN!




    -Paul
  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    Well my close up pictures are nothing short of embarrassing. In my last post I stated the crack ran between the denticles to the top of T, that was incorrect...It actually runs into the top of I. The second picture shows where the die cracks are under magnification( I drew a few little lines).
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Hmmm, interesting close-ups. I know u have the coin in-hand and can see the cracks, but unfortunately
    they are not showing up very well in the pics. It's interesting how you drew the lines, in the direction of
    the cracks, as they don't seem to quite match what is seen in the Cud.

    Anyway its good to see some added interest in this thread and thanks everyone for your compliments image
  • RunnersDadRunnersDad Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations Stone on the discovery coin....your hard work and due diligence is certainly paying big dividends. Keep up the good work!
    Mike

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  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    I know this isn't a lot better but I had to try...at least it shows the cracks image
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    USMoneyLover, great last shot of the die cracks, this helps tremendously with die stage progression.
    It appears to coincide with the direction the Cud has formed, so it would be interesting to see how
    many other examples show up image
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats Winston on your CBD newp!!!

    Looks great!!!
  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭


    << <i>USMoneyLover, great last shot of the die cracks, this helps tremendously with die stage progression.
    It appears to coincide with the direction the Cud has formed, so it would be interesting to see how
    many other examples show up image >>



    This was the main reason I was trying to get the pictures right...I'm glad you didn't think I was trying to clog up your post with my crappy pictures image...The only thing I wish is that I could get a better look to the top right of T in united of my coin to see if there is a crack present...It's gunked up there :/
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Way to go!! Congrats! Looks like a piece that was unearthed litterally!! I bet the dig came from a digger if you know what I mean. Way cool to find a discovery piece!! Congrats again!! image
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I just received a response from a board member, who received a response from a very prominent Bust Dime collector,
    that there was rumor of this Cud since at least the last decade, but that no other examples had surfaced to date!
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Until now............congrats again Winston on an obviously VERY RARE coin!!!
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats! image Hopefully we will meet at FUN.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • A big Congratulations to you Stone! You are doing very well.........again!

    Now, how do I put this in as my icon? Anyone.....


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