Magic The Gathering Black Lotus...

Dpeck100

Black Lotus



Check out the price of this card. Wow these cards bring some huge cash.

vladguerrero

cough, non-sport, cough.

brendanb438

Those are my bread and butter on eBay. Damn good money.

Dpeck100

Sorry I never even gave it a seconds thought. There have been so many off topic posts in here I simply didn't put two and two together.

That being said this is a big price for a raw card to sell for.

Dpeck100

Brendan you being serious? It seems there is actually huge activity in these. I have no interest but they are clearly strong.

brendanb438

No I am serious. I have the market cornered on Craigslist in a 3 state area for these. Buy collections, flip on eBay and sell to a couple stores and repeat. Had around $2500 in eBay sales last 10 days of these. Listing another $1500 worth of them throughout the week.

Dpeck100

Very cool, these are hot from what I understand and PSA did a special on these about two months ago. A dealer I speak with brought them actually to my attention.

I frequent a card shop to buy card savers for my Wrestling All Stars cards and they have tournaments and pack launches.

As a dealer you might as well work where there is action.

brendanb438

The only downside is that there really isn't a big market for cards in PSA for this game. Most collectors truly don't care hence the market is really small for graded cards. Huge market for the raw cards still.

Dpeck100

Well stick with the raw market. If condition is limited to a small few of interest, then moving cards in played with condition makes the most sense.


I think the concept is strange but in all honesty it is good for the hobby when somethings are moving and can actually bring in predictable cash.

itzagoner

Quoth the seller: "I never played magic the gathering and i am willing to get what i can for this card."

those cagey Quebecois.

rexvos

Black Lotus had a good year this year. Too bad card has nowhere to go but down when they find out he was on the juice.

Dpeck100

Does anyone have any longer term perspective on this card. Did it used to sell for more, less, the same etc.?

72skywalker

<< <i>Does anyone have any longer term perspective on this card. Did it used to sell for more, less, the same etc.? >>



The price was going up until all the buyers kept getting their lunch money stolen. They couldn't afford the higher prices so the card started to drop in price.

Dpeck100

Funny, but I bet there are some super rich computer guys who play this game and they have more money then most.

rexvos

<< <i>Funny, but I bet there are some super rich computer guys who play this game and they have more money then most. >>



and less dates.

Dpeck100

There are a lot of guys who buy dates so not really. Plenty of these guys do that I promise.

brendanb438

<< <i>Does anyone have any longer term perspective on this card. Did it used to sell for more, less, the same etc.? >>




I used to play on the Dork Tour, I mean Pro Tour. Sold probably around six figures worth of these cards over the years. Can even say I ripped up an Unlimited Black Lotus back in 2000? at GP Pittsburgh.

I have owned the "Power 9" cards at a few times over the years of which the Black Lotus is the most valuable. The market hit its peak about 5 years ago with a lot of the English cards going over to Japan / China for huge mark ups. Really don't see these cards going up in value much more.

Now cards like Underground Sea, Tundra, etc. which are referred to as Dual Lands have gone up about 2 to 3 times in value the last 2 years and some other cards like Force of Will have gone up bigtime. Being a collectable game it is a whole different ballgame then sports cards and when cards see more play they can go up bigtime. These older cards see play in a format called Legacy which a big Grand Prix tournment was held in this format earlier this summer in Columbus, OH causing some of the cards to double in price in a short period of time.

I just use Craiglist to pickup collections and then to try and move as many cards as possible whether a $1 card or a $200 card. I bought a collection last weekend for $750 and so far sold about $2000 worth of cards from it with a decent amount left to sell.

But it again is a tough market to get into if you have no background in the game.

Way more stoners playing they game these days than nerds.

corvette1340

lol

daddymc

Search is your friend and would bring up no less than six threads about this card from the non-sports forum. The Alpha Black Lotus has carried premium prices for quite awhile now as do some other rares from Alpha like the Mox cards. Later versions also do well. If I ever come across some old Magic cards at a yard sale, I'm buying them all.

Dpeck100

Thank you for the detailed response. I don't judge what people spend their money on. I will say I am surprised at the prices but with apparently 6 million people playing and it being a global market anything is possible.


Buying in bulk is probably the way to go and then busting off in pieces.



Good luck with your sales.

Dpeck100

Daddymac,


Yeah I so do it and put on EBAY right away.

MeteoriteGuy

I finished second in 10-12 tournaments about 10-12 years ago. Never could finish first. Damn mana.

MeteoriteGuy

Also, I sent cards to all the artist to get signed, back then, and not only did like everyone respond, I bet 70% of the time they sent me a free blank back artist proof.

Dpeck100

Well hopefully you still have them.


Please tell me you have a signed Black Lotus and can bust that on EBAY for huge money.

MeteoriteGuy

No, I sold them a long time ago, but they were mostly revised edition cards....I think that is called 4th Edition now. The black lotus and his mana giving buddies were part of the first and second editions.

Dpeck100

I see, so much more rare and hence the high price. That is what I was told but your example confirms that. Either way still cool that cards are going for big money.

brendanb438

Those lands from Revised or 3rd Edition are what go for $40 to $70 apiece all day long. The 10 lands that could make 2 different colored mana.

Dpeck100

That is a great range to work in. If a card routinely sells in a $30 range you can make money over time.

MeteoriteGuy

<< <i>Those lands from Revised or 3rd Edition are what go for $40 to $70 apiece all day long. The 10 lands that could make 2 different colored mana. >>



Wow...I still have a red/green one...maybe another. I think a friend of mine has a couple still also. We play like once every six months.

The only real cool old card I kept was a Berzerk....it doubles the power of the creater and kills it at the end of the turn. We usually played group games so I would use on someone else's creater when they were attacking someone else. Two birds with one stone.

digicat

I was addicted to this game back in high school. I have fond memories of hanging out at one of my high-school friend's house on a Friday night with a few pizzas, a dozen or so 2 liter bottles of Coke or Dr. Pepper, and a late night gaming nerd-fest. I dated anyone in high school, content to spend time with my comic books, computer, Magic cards, and fellow nerds. LOL!

I managed to accumulate a pretty nasty selection of decks in the early 90s through trading off my baseball card collection at the time. I also expanded by collection through winning a bunch of tournaments in my area and executing cut-throat trades. I sold off most of my stuff in the early 00's and did pretty well. I could have gotten more than twice as much if I had held on to it and sold it now though.

When I sold off the bulk of my collection, I thought the Magic hobby had peaked after reaching international levels. It seems that it's only gotten hotter as the years have gone on, and is still global. I'm sure a lot of this market is fueled by some of the early players like me, now working stiffs in their mid 30s, looking to relive some of their teenage nerd glory and buy up the stuff they had or wanted as kids (kinda like how the 80s baseball card market stays afloat).

If I had some friends to play this game with, I might even get back into it.

hhmag70

<< <i>

If I had some friends to play this game with, I might even get back into it. >>



Are you saying you have no friends?

Dpeck100

No he is saying if he had some people close to him interested in playing he would.


I don't have any friends interested in my wrestling cards but I still collect. This is a game that needs others to interact.

digicat

<< <i>I don't have any friends interested in my wrestling cards but I still collect. This is a game that needs others to interact. >>



I played a lot of "me vs me" when I needed to design or fine-tune a deck for live competition, but it's not very fun if that's the only way you play.

In college, I taught my then-girlfriend how to play, but she didn't like to loose, so that took the fun out of it. After college, none of my friends were interested.




<< <i>Are you saying you have no friends? >>


All of my friends in high school were comic book/MTG/Math Club type nerds.

In college, and since, my friends consist mostly of musicians, video game nerds, engineering nerds, and bio-science nerds. They all think MTG is TOO nerdy. LOL!

Dpeck100

It sounds like trading off your old cards for these was a good move. I am stuck with a ton of 80's baseball cards but I will never get rid of them due to the history of them.



If I could have some how moved them out at real prices then that would have worked and it sounds like you did so if so congrats.

digicat

<< <i>It sounds like trading off your old cards for these was a good move. >>



I'm sure I did a lot better than if I had held on to those 80s cards!

Dpeck100

I am sure you did. I don't really follow them much but they have tanked so much. I watched some football, baseball and so on go off yestreday and I am sure there are some broken hearts at the current prices.

That is why I have moved on and pumped money into different cards. Buying these is just simply continuing to throw good money after bad. When there is a lot of un opened wax you are dealing with a declining market long term.

digicat

<< <i>I am sure you did. I don't really follow them much but they have tanked so much. I watched some football, baseball and so on go off yestreday and I am sure there are some broken hearts at the current prices.

That is why I have moved on and pumped money into different cards. Buying these is just simply continuing to throw good money after bad. When there is a lot of un opened wax you are dealing with a declining market long term.
>>



I traded the 80/90s cards at early 90s values, for MTG cards that had not yet peaked, then sold them for a significant profit in the early 00s, just not as much profit as I would have had I hung on to them, but I had bills to pay, so whatever.

Ironically, I ended up buying back most of the sports cards I had traded off when I got back into baseball card collecting, but for much less. For some reason, I just HAD to have them. Heh.

thedutymon

Evening,

And you guys got the conejes to call myself and some other guys, Geeks over in the Non Sport Forum!!!

For Shame...For Shame.......................Ya buncha Pocket Protectin', Tape around the Center of the Glasses, Bowling Shoe wearing, Peewee Herman Haircut Sportin' Geeks & Dweebs!!!!

Did you get your latest "Saved By the Bell" "The Classics" "Seasons 1-5" DVD collection in the mail yet ??!!!! Are you watching "Dawson's Creek" Reruns and sporting a Woody over Punky or Poppy or whatever her name is??

Bunch a everloving GEEKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YeeHah

Neil

nightcrawler

I collect Dune and Space 1999.

Dpeck100

I collect Wrestling All Stars...

brendanb438

The group of guys I used to play with was the stoner group who frequents this game. The game is very much different now with how key rules changed and added concepts like "Planeswalkers". Played in one PTQ this year and almost top 8ed in a sealed format and said I will never play this game again. People are too serious about it. So now I just make money off those people.

Sorting 3000+ rares tonight by set so I can sell them. Sucks balls.

Anyone want 100,000 bulk commons and uncommons? My wife is ready to kill me with how many cards I have picked up from flipping them.

sbfinley

I loved that game in Jr. High then dropped it through High School. Got to college and found many friends in the dorms and frat house to play with. A few years ago I sold my rares in one bulk lot, several thousand including multiples of most of the power nine. I probably could have done better if I separated them, but from that auction I pulled enough to purchase a new Mac and a Pro tools HD rig so not complaining.

bleedingreen

<< <i>Funny, but I bet there are some super rich computer guys who play this game and they have more money then most. >>




It may look like they have money, but they really drive their mother's Porsche and find a woman who paid for her own fake boobs.

diamondman

just food for thought, remember they counterfeited the black lotus card and a few other ones there names don't come to my mind.
The black lotus was counterfeited the most at least this is what i remember from 10 years ago.
this would be one reason to have some (higher dollar) magic graded by PSA.

nuhurricane

a gem mint alpha lotus just sold for 25,000$ recently, and i believe a signed time walk that was bgs 9.5 with a 10 sig just sold for 8,000$ in the past few weeks. the alphas have such a tight print run and quality was such an issue on their first run that gem mint are very hard to come by and quite valuable. the only problem was that within 3 years of coming out the game was already beginning to be mass-printed so much that it negatively effects the value of the newer cards. the alpha set only had 1100 copies out the gate.

brendanb438

Just picked up 91 dual lands on the cheap.

Anyone have any MTG collections for sale PM me because I am buying.

summerof68

newbie test

Bunker

The seller of this card received a Negative for not shipping...

nuhurricane

black lotus has gone no where but up in value since it was printed. a psa 10 alpha (first set made) sold for 13k in 2008 and recently sold for 40k- there are about 8 psa 10 / bgs 9.5's that exist.

Thulnanth

Did it actually sell though? I always see those high value BIN's disappear, only to reappear a little later.

Take it easy,
Jared