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DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
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RE: 1984 Olympics proof set

There was one photo of both silver coins and nothing else--none of the packaging are in photos.

So I sent the following message:

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I am interested in the silver Olympic coins, but I have some questions in regards to the condition.

1. Do the coins have any marks like fingerprints on them?

2. Are all parts of the original box and certificate included? (etui, certificate, lid, box ,sleeve)

3. Overall condition of the original government packaging.

Sorry for the questions, but I am a serious buyer and collector.

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The response was terse:



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no fingerprints still in original box and coa, box in good shape. thnaks matt

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As you guys all know, this set has a box with a lid, but also a sleeve in which the box slides into. The box contains the etui where the coins are stored. I wanted to make sure all pieces were included and listed them by name to make it easier for him to confirm. With the response he gave I fear it opens it up to games. If the sleeve is missing he will say that he stated the original box was in good shape. I asked specific questions as to the components available and with that response, will I have any recourse in case something is missing? He did not say the sleeve is missing, but he also did not say the sleeve is present. See what I am getting at?

I just want to hear it from more experience coin collectors about how this seller is handling things. I am perfectly comfortable walking away from this auction. Don't need the headache.


***I just realized I am in the darkside, not the US Coins Forum. Sorry about that, but most of my time is spent here and this topic is applicable either way, since it could just as well be a darkside coin for sale by a vague seller.

edit to add comment
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee

Comments

  • canadacolornutcanadacolornut Posts: 995 ✭
    I don't know Bud.

    Terse indeed but it sounds like he answered the question.

    Regards...
    No,no- the kids and the cat are all right honey.
    It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    He did not make it clear if all pieces were present for this set.
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

    BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
  • cdmeadcdmead Posts: 121
    This is not a rare set. Personally, if I were less than pleased with the dealer's response, I'd be looking somewhere else.
    There's nothing in the rule book that says an elephant can't pitch.

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  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    cdmead,

    my sentiments lean that way too. The response does not build confidence unless I simply want the coins and don't care about the packaging.
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

    BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do I deal with them, I move along and ignore them and their auctions.
    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭
    The seller sounds busy.
    If you are in the Western North Carolina area, please consider visiting our coin shop:

    WNC Coins, LLC
    1987-C Hendersonville Road
    Asheville, NC 28803

    wnccoins.com
  • GazzaGazza Posts: 543
    Sounds like a novice to me, a link to the auction would have been useful, does he normally sell coins or has he just came across this set and has put them on for a punt with no prior knowledge.
    Gazza
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Here is the auction. This is definitely a coin dealer.


    Link to the auction
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

    BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    Fixed Link
    R.I.P. Wayne, Brad
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    this sellers description pretty well covers it - how often do you see fingerprints in government capsules? If you want a PCGS PR70, maybe you should buy it that way

    HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 38 YEARS.CUSTOMER SATISFACTION GUARANTEED.43,000 SATISFIED FEEDBACK CUSTOMERS.JUST BOUGHT 2 PROOF CONDITION 1983 AND 1984 S OLYMPIC COMMEMORATIVE SILVER DOLLARS. BID IS FOR BOTH COINS. INCLUDES ORIGINAL GOVERNMENT BOX AND COA.LOOK FOR MY OTHER COMMEMORATIVE AUCTIONS.DISCOUNTED SHIPPING FOR MULTIPLE ITEMS.HIGH BIDDER PAYS $5 SHIPPING.7 DAY RETURN POLICY.PAYMENT MUST BE RECEIVED WITHIN 10 DAYS OF AUCTION ENDING.INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOMED. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL OR EMAIL 1-815-282-4444 FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS



    If they have been in business since the early 70's, they might respond better to a quick phone call on Monday as they give the number. They state auction includes original government box and COA, what else is there? you want the mailing envelope and packagaing in perfect condition?
  • folderholderfolderholder Posts: 85
    99.9% Positive feedback with 47,000 buyers? That's a whole lot of happy customers. The seller answered your questions, too; he just didn't write an essay. If it were me I would go ahead and buy.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
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