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The Photo Proves the Signature Real, Part 2

MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
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http://cgi.ebay.com/JOHN-WETTELAND-autographed-GAME-MODEL-BAT-96-NY-YANKEES-/180576844856


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Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.

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  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭

    I'm going to step out on a limb and say that I truely believe he is in fact signing his bat. Goodness forbid he's doing anything else to his bat with that pen.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    The bat is signed in marker however and....sorry, not going there with size.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • byronscott4everbyronscott4ever Posts: 932 ✭✭✭
    Maybe he was just really excited to be signing the bat?
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭
    I had to ask the seller a question about the ball point pen in his picture and the sharpie on the bat. I will let everyone know what he says.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • Big27Big27 Posts: 41 ✭
    It doesn't necessarily mean the bat FS was being signed by Wetteland the moment the photo was taken - for most in-person autographers who sell their stuff, they take one generic photo of the person signing an item, as a 'proof shot' so they think they are giving the buyer peace of mind as far as authenticity is concerned.
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It doesn't necessarily mean the bat FS was being signed by Wetteland the moment the photo was taken - for most in-person autographers who sell their stuff, they take one generic photo of the person signing an item, as a 'proof shot' so they think they are giving the buyer peace of mind as far as authenticity is concerned. >>



    That sounds shady to me. That says to me that Yes, John Wetteland does sign items and I have a picture of him signing something it's just that your item may or may not have been signed by him but rest assured that he does sign autographs once in a while.

    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>It doesn't necessarily mean the bat FS was being signed by Wetteland the moment the photo was taken - for most in-person autographers who sell their stuff, they take one generic photo of the person signing an item, as a 'proof shot' so they think they are giving the buyer peace of mind as far as authenticity is concerned. >>



    You are correct, it doesnt mean or prove anything. You do understand the word proof correct?
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    I have some in person autos on eBay at the moment and have the pics where I had them signed...but I'm not posting them. When I bought autos in the past, for me, these "proof photos" were a sign to stay away -- I think overall it hurts the seller more than they think.
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    "Proof" photos are no different than claiming you have a large member because you have big feet and hands. BTW, I have large feet and hands.
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>"Proof" photos are no different than claiming you have a large member because you have big feet and hands. BTW, I have large feet and hands. >>



    I do find it kinda funny when the photos don't match...like above.

    It is saying to me, buy this autograph from an idiot liar. I demand a min. of halfwit to my liars.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭
    The photo looks like Wetteland got pulled over by the police and is signing the ticket that he received.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭
    Here is the response I got back from the seller when I pointed oput that Wetteland is using a ballpoint pen but the bat is signed with a sharpie.

    Dear 72skywalker,

    Its a pic of him signing a baseball. Hes kind of a weird guy and when you take pictures of him, he flips out. I would rather try to get more autographs and only have 1 picture of him signing then take pics of everything being signed and run the risk of him stop signing and flip out.


    - *srra*
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    ...just thought I'd share this one of Jagr...

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  • Big27Big27 Posts: 41 ✭
    A 'proof shot' is in-person autographer lingo for a picture of an player while signing - it doesn't mean the image is an absolute, 100 percent photo match with the item being sold.

    Why would you think I wouldn't understand what 'proof' means?




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    << <i>It doesn't necessarily mean the bat FS was being signed by Wetteland the moment the photo was taken - for most in-person autographers who sell their stuff, they take one generic photo of the person signing an item, as a 'proof shot' so they think they are giving the buyer peace of mind as far as authenticity is concerned. >>



    You are correct, it doesnt mean or prove anything. You do understand the word proof correct? >>

  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    I do have a proof shot that's actually legit:

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  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>A 'proof shot' is in-person autographer lingo for a picture of an player while signing - it doesn't mean the image is an absolute, 100 percent photo match with the item being sold.

    Why would you think I wouldn't understand what 'proof' means?




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    << <i>It doesn't necessarily mean the bat FS was being signed by Wetteland the moment the photo was taken - for most in-person autographers who sell their stuff, they take one generic photo of the person signing an item, as a 'proof shot' so they think they are giving the buyer peace of mind as far as authenticity is concerned. >>



    You are correct, it doesnt mean or prove anything. You do understand the word proof correct? >>

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    You can come up with any lingo you want, proof has a meaning, and that is not it. That photo proves he signed something with a ball point pen in a car...nothing else. It does not prove he signed that bat period.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That photo proves he signed something with a ball point pen in a car...nothing else. >>



    It doesn't even prove that. For all anyone knows, he could be using it to try and free his stuck zipper.
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