1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 10
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If one of the 3 PSA 10 1952 Topps Mickey Mantles were ever to hit the auction block do you think it would sell for more then a Million Dollars?? or maybe even more then the T206 Wagner?
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<< <i>If one of the 3 PSA 10 1952 Topps Mickey Mantles were ever to hit the auction block do you think it would sell for more then a Million Dollars?? or maybe even more then the T206 Wagner? >>
I don't know if it would sell for more THAN $1,00,000 I know your grammar stinks.
As for the OP's question, I would guess between $500,000 and $750,000.
So no
So no
A current owner has already been offered a million for one but why would a wealthy collector sell something they don't want to sell just because the money sounds good to you. Do you think the sale of the card will make him a millionaire? Nines don't come up for sale often and if the Branca card was better centered there would have been more bids and the card would have gone for over 400,000 at that time. A solid 9 would go for over 500,000 today but it doesn't mean it will motivate the owners to sell.
<< <i>Joe Orlando asked this question at the PSA luncheon this year and the overwhelming response from those in the room was that it would indeed sell for $1,000,000+. >>
Doesn't anybody find this scenario odd? The president of the company that has the means to assign an arbitrary grade to a card to artificially inflate its value, is wondering if a '10' would sell for that much?
Everyone is acting as if that Mantle card is rare just because some joe stamped a 10 on a label and put it in a cheap plastic slab.
I'm not.
Steve
<< <i>Doesn't anybody find this scenario odd? The president of the company that has the means to assign an arbitrary grade to a card to artificially inflate its value, is wondering if a '10' would sell for that much? >>
You really needed to be in the room to understand the context of the question. Joe was discussing how the hobby had changed, and the affect that grading and authentication of memorabilia has had on the hobby.
Does Dmitri Young own one of the 10's or does he ONLY have a 9?
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<< <i>It only takes 2 bidders willing to pay 7 figures for it to exceed the million mark so yes it's very possible.
Does Dmitri Young own one of the 10's or does he ONLY have a 9? >>
I thought Dmitri had the 1951 Bowman Mantle in 10
And yes the 52 Mantle would sell for a mil +
<< <i>HAHA. If your going to put somebody down for there spelling, at least use a period between "....1,00,000 (PERIOD) I know your grammar stinks". And now that I think about it, you can add a comma between "...know (comma) your..."
So it should read, "I don't know if it would sell for more than $1,000,000. I know, your grammar stinks." >>
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<< <i>It only takes 2 bidders willing to pay 7 figures for it to exceed the million mark so yes it's very possible.
Does Dmitri Young own one of the 10's or does he ONLY have a 9? >>
I thought Dmitri had the 1951 Bowman Mantle in 10 >>
I don't think Dmitri owns the card. Here is a...
Link
...to a set that has the 51 Bowman Mantle PSA 10 listed...
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<< <i>Joe Orlando asked this question at the PSA luncheon this year and the overwhelming response from those in the room was that it would indeed sell for $1,000,000+. >>
Doesn't anybody find this scenario odd? The president of the company that has the means to assign an arbitrary grade to a card to artificially inflate its value, is wondering if a '10' would sell for that much?
Everyone is acting as if that Mantle card is rare just because some joe stamped a 10 on a label and put it in a cheap plastic slab. >>
Really?
A grade is not arbitrary. Arbitrary implies randomness. Grades are assigned based on expert opinions. They don't spin a grading wheel. Maybe it's a fine line sometimes, between a 9 and a 10, but it can be safely said that those three PSA 10s are the nicest authentic copies in existence. Those with the means to do so will always compete for the best of anything, including Mickey Mantle's best card. So the value is not artificially inflated, but a result of competition for the very best copy of a very popular item. And no one at the company (Orlando included) has incentive to intentionally apply a PSA 10 to an undeserving card (which is sort of what you're implying), thereby diminishing the value of their service.
If I remember correctly, the video was of him showing his collecting room and certain pieces that he has.
I don't think it will ever pass the sale price of the T206 Wagner PSA 8 card.
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<< <i>HAHA. If your going to put somebody down for there spelling, at least use a period between "....1,00,000 (PERIOD) I know your grammar stinks". And now that I think about it, you can add a comma between "...know (comma) your..."
So it should read, "I don't know if it would sell for more than $1,000,000. I know, your grammar stinks." >>
Guilty.
I'd just like to see one. haha.
<< <i>Does anyone have a picture of any of the PSA 10 '52 Topps Mantles?
I'd just like to see one. haha. >>
Not mine but here is a pic of one...
<< <i>Everyone is acting as if that Mantle card is rare just because some joe stamped a 10 on a label and put it in a cheap plastic slab. >>
Not everyone, just the folks who want to buy the card.
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<< <i>Wow. How do these vintage PSA 10 survive the years in that condition? >>
In my opinion it was likely a stamp collector who placed the card in a protective "glassine" type envelope which were commonly used to store mint postage stamps, and he stored it along with his mint stamps in a protective manner.
Interesting that many if not most mint stamps from the 50's are hardly worth face value, whereby baseball cards in mint condition are worth a small fortune and sometimes a large fortune.
<< <i>I also put those together and made it my background:
How'd you do that? I'd like a copy so I could do it!! PM me, please!
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/pdub1819/othersets/6204
There are three cards in PSA 10 Gem Mint but as a prior message board poster stated price does not always intice sellers. If you are stupid rich, you love the fact that you own one of three of the most expensive modern day sports cards that exist. You are not a seller just becuase of price.
I think 5 million is not out of reach. I think I saw a PSA 9 for sale in an up coming auction. I am guessing $700,000 or more for that card.
I am not some pie in the sky optimest, I just understand human nature and a card of this magnitude is worth huge money right now.
<< <i>How'd you do that? I'd like a copy so I could do it!! PM me, please! >>
Here is the full-size version. I'm running a 1600x900 resolution, so I had to add the black sides to stop the cards from distorting. Probably could have accomplished that by simply clicking center instead of stretch, but where's the fun in that? Anyway, enjoy!
I wonder how much a 53 Topps PSA 10 Mantle would sell for.
Someone sent me a link to this thread.
I guess in 2010 my 5 million estimate wasn’t high enough.
Wow. My take away.
There a lot of guys, with a lot of posts that I’ve never seen post in the last few years since I’ve been here. And a lot of banned members as well.
@Dpeck100 Nice call. Gave you a much over due “like”. Just makes you wonder what other cards will sell for waaaaay more than anyone (but you perhaps) would guess in about ten years.
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I had an opportunity to view a side by side comparison of Evan’s stunning 9 vs. arguably the best 10 and to the naked eye no one can tell the difference and to the trained eye a few white dots are the difference.
There is no bubble in apex cards like this. You are at the top of the food chain and it is just different.
<<< There is no bubble in apex cards like this. You are at the top of the food chain and it is just different. >>>
That is an excellent point about apex cards. This is seen not only with cards, but coins, and most other collectibles such as art...even with cars.
Evans card has a slight tilt seen fading towards the top, but I could just be particular since you've compared it to a 10. I have never seen a high resolution of an actual 10 and side by side as you said so its not possible to be for certain. I wouldn't expect Evan's card to bump so that also leads me to believe it is in the right holder.
I don’t think there is an expectation that the card will bump and quite frankly I think PSA in general needs to be very careful with bumping cards of this magnitude. They would literally be handing millions to someone and in reality taking millions away from someone else.
I think everyone who has a lot of graded cards knows there is variance in the eye appeal of cards within a certain grade.
A quick example. I have two of the three 1982 Wrestling All Stars Favulous Moolah 9’s. Both meet the technical requirements to be mint but one is closer to Gem Mint than the other. Obviously a far cry from a Mantle but the obvious point is Evan’s card in my view is in the same situation. Tremendous eye appeal and no one is questioning why it is graded Mint.
Anyone who follows the mainstream news heard about a painting in the last six months that went for just over 450 million. There is huge money out there that want to own the top pieces. This is easily one of the best baseball cards that exist.
Interesting that it looks like only two active posters left from this thread.