Shocking news about Tony Gwynn.
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Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn, 50, is battling parotid cancer and will soon begin radiation and chemotherapy treatments, according to a spokesperson for the SDSU Athletic Department.
He discovered the cancer last month after a third round of surgery, according to a published report.
"I had surgery for a parotid tumor in 1997 and again three years ago and both those times there was no cancer," Gwynn told the San Diego Union-Tribune. "But this time they found a malignancy. They took out three lymph nodes and did all the tests and the results showed cancer in the parotid. "
The cancer is slow moving, but aggressive, he told the paper. A consultation is scheduled for Monday.
Gwynn said he plans to return as San Diego State's baseball coach.
Source: Tony Gwynn Battling Cancer | NBC San Diego
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however, it is true that we will continue to see a rise in maladies which are born of players' inabilities to shake bad habits.
this is nothing but sad.
<< <i>but I think this is the type of disease caused by steroids. >>
What are you basing this on?
The parotid gland is a salivary gland.
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<< <i>I'm not gonna judge and I have no idea about Tony Gwynn...but I think this is the type of disease caused by steroids. Unfortunately there's gonna be a lot more former players in the future developing diseases like this from their heavy steroid use in the 80's and 90's. >>
Cancer is cancer no matter how you get it.
<< <i>is a [former] professional athlete any more or less likely to get cancer than the general population? >>
A person who dips or smokes is more likely.
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<< <i>but I think this is the type of disease caused by steroids. >>
What are you basing this on?
The parotid gland is a salivary gland. >>
I didn't know what "gland" it is but let me make my point more clear...steroids weaken and destroy the internal organs of the body which provide the disease fighting mechanisms. A weakened body is unable to fight off cancers and other diseases that a healthier stronger body can...basically say a 50 year old steroid user may have the internal body of say an 80 year old - just an example.
Kids as well as adults should learn and understand that certain types of steroid use will, not if, will reduce a lifespan...just a question of how much.
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<< <i>but I think this is the type of disease caused by steroids. >>
What are you basing this on?
The parotid gland is a salivary gland. >>
I didn't know what "gland" it is but let me make my point more clear...steroids weaken and destroy the internal organs of the body which provide the disease fighting mechanisms. A weakened body is unable to fight off cancers and other diseases that a healthier stronger body can...basically say a 50 year old steroid user may have the internal body of say an 80 year old - just an example.
Kids as well as adults should learn and understand that certain types of steroid use will, not if, will reduce a lifespan...just a question of how much. >>
...and of course chewing tobacco alone can and does cause cancer in the mouth, and someone doing both, tobacco and steroids...that's a brutal double whammy.
as for the steroid issue, i never would think in a billion years that Gwynn would rely on it like Bonds or Mcgwire or whoever, but WTF knows for sure? that's not what this thread is about.
Gwynn himself has openly ADMITTED that chewing is the basis for this problem, his doctors told him it could happen and it did.
<< <i>i figured there would be more discussion about Gwynn's weight problem and the effect it could have on his heart or other vital organs, but one thing at a time.....the man deserves an opportunity to beat this....if you check recent history, Brett Butler dealt with a similar circumstance and came back after recovery to continue playing.
as for the steroid issue, i never would think in a billion years that Gwynn would rely on it like Bonds or Mcgwire or whoever, but WTF knows for sure? that's not what this thread is about.
Gwynn himself has openly ADMITTED that chewing is the basis for this problem, his doctors told him it could happen and it did. >>
Point understood and I believe all of us would like to see Tony Gwynn get well soon, and I sincerely hope that he does beat this cancer...and hopefully this can serve as a warning that people could see as an example of what can happen to ya if ya do that.
I tried chewing tobacco one time and that was enough for me...I couldn't stand the taste of the chit, but it did give me an interesting sort of buzz and I can see if ya don't mind the taste, the addictive capability of it.
<< <i>Your crazy if you think Gwynn was on the juice. He was double fisting cheeseburgers not taking needles. He's nuts to still dip though. >>
I already clearly stated "I have no idea about Tony Gwynn (whether or not he was on steroids)"...but in my opinion the number of MLB players during the 80's and 90's who were not on steroids, I would say probably is a very short list.
<< <i>And do you back up your comment with any facts? The folks that are suspect are those guys that put up monster HR totals. Steroids dont allow you to hit a baseball better, they dont improve your batting eye. They do let you condition and strength train well past normal limits. What you believe and what you know are two different things. >>
Here's a fact for ya...Tony Gwynn's HR production got higher at the end of his career than it was in the beginning and the middle of his career. Whether that was because of steroids or not, I already clearly stated I have no idea.
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<< <i>And do you back up your comment with any facts? The folks that are suspect are those guys that put up monster HR totals. Steroids dont allow you to hit a baseball better, they dont improve your batting eye. They do let you condition and strength train well past normal limits. What you believe and what you know are two different things. >>
Here's a fact for ya...Tony Gwynn's HR production got higher at the end of his career than it was in the beginning and the middle of his career. Whether that was because of steroids or not, I already clearly stated I have no idea. >>
But you brought it up multible times and this is probably not the thread to talk about it.
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<< <i>And do you back up your comment with any facts? The folks that are suspect are those guys that put up monster HR totals. Steroids dont allow you to hit a baseball better, they dont improve your batting eye. They do let you condition and strength train well past normal limits. What you believe and what you know are two different things. >>
Here's a fact for ya...Tony Gwynn's HR production got higher at the end of his career than it was in the beginning and the middle of his career. Whether that was because of steroids or not, I already clearly stated I have no idea. >>
But you brought it up multible times and this is probably not the thread to talk about it. >>
If it can serve as a warning to kids and adults not to do steroids or chewing tobacco, then to me it's worth bringing up.
<< <i>If it can serve as a warning to kids and adults not to do steroids or chewing tobacco, then to me it's worth bringing up. >>
Tony Gwynn can be the poster child for reasons not to dip, but there's really no evidence to put steroids on him as well.
It'd be like taking a guy who crashed his car while texting on his phone, and saying "This is why you don't drive drunk."
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
Don't sweat this SteveK guy. All he does is worship Ryan Howard(worse than Fandango does Pujols). When you apply his same words to his heroes, he has a fit.
He is pretty classless tearing down Gwynn in light of the news. Don't worry, he will try and sugar coat it, or spin it any way he can...and his buddy Winpitcher will waffle back and forth with him depending on how many people are on his side of the argument.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
What if he has cancer and it is not related to tobacco or steroids?
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
Don't sweat this SteveK guy. All he does is worship Ryan Howard(worse than Fandango does Pujols). When you apply his same words to his heroes, he has a fit.
He is pretty classless tearing down Gwynn in light of the news. Don't worry, he will try and sugar coat it, or spin it any way he can...and his buddy Winpitcher will waffle back and forth with him depending on how many people are on his side of the argument. >>
Saberman - You do have a vivid imagination.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
What if he has cancer and it is not related to tobacco or steroids? >>
Well you can go get your medical degree, become his physician, and find out...and then post the results here for us.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
Don't sweat this SteveK guy. All he does is worship Ryan Howard(worse than Fandango does Pujols). When you apply his same words to his heroes, he has a fit.
He is pretty classless tearing down Gwynn in light of the news. Don't worry, he will try and sugar coat it, or spin it any way he can...and his buddy Winpitcher will waffle back and forth with him depending on how many people are on his side of the argument. >>
Saberman - You do have a vivid imagination.
Yes I do. Just messin with ya too SteveK...just so you know.
He's always been FAT!
Sorry if this doesn't play into the drug or tobacco arguments.
but he's a frekin' fat slob and always has been. Very bad for his health and yours too. Hello?
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<< <i>He's always been FAT!
Sorry if this doesn't play into the drug or tobacco arguments.
but he's a frekin' fat slob and always has been. Very bad for his health and yours too. Hello? >>
Actually it does, which has been my point all along, and has nothing to do with Gwynn personally...anything we would do to weaken the body's ability to fight off disease...steroids, obesity, and anything else factors into the equation. Yes, with some diseases it may not matter, but there is no doubt that with many diseases it does matter.
Anyone can do steroids, drugs, smoke, nicotine, eat like a pig, etc...but don't complain too much when you're in your 40's and 50's and your body develops different diseases that someone who took care of themselves normally doesn't develop...and ya probably won't have to worry about your body in your 60's or 70's because ya probably won't make it that far.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
What if he has cancer and it is not related to tobacco or steroids? >>
Well you can go get your medical degree, become his physician, and find out...and then post the results here for us. >>
Great comeback, man you really got me on that one. My point was what if he just happen to end up getting Cancer and it did not have anything to do with chewing tobacco and steroids? It would make you look very stupid and ignorant. You should be very careful what you say when it comes to that disease.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
What if he has cancer and it is not related to tobacco or steroids? >>
Well you can go get your medical degree, become his physician, and find out...and then post the results here for us. >>
Great comeback, man you really got me on that one. My point was what if he just happen to end up getting Cancer and it did not have anything to do with chewing tobacco and steroids? It would make you look very stupid and ignorant. You should be very careful what you say when it comes to that disease. >>
Okay, wise and noble one.
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<< <i>Oh, I did not know that you were being so moral. >>
The issue is a health issue. Isn't that obvious but I guess not to you. >>
What if he has cancer and it is not related to tobacco or steroids? >>
Well you can go get your medical degree, become his physician, and find out...and then post the results here for us. >>
Great comeback, man you really got me on that one. My point was what if he just happen to end up getting Cancer and it did not have anything to do with chewing tobacco and steroids? It would make you look very stupid and ignorant. You should be very careful what you say when it comes to that disease. >>
Okay, wise and noble one.
Another one, you really got me on that one.