Help with some Chinese Coins .... Couple Big Ones

Smittys

First pic for size comparison
Year ? Provence ?

sumnom

First, I can tell you that neither one of them are coins. They are both charms. The smaller one appears to be from Annam (Vietnam) from the period 1820-1841 (if authentic).

The larger one is Chinese from the period 1796-1820. However, I strongly suspect it is counterfeit. If the yellow-green color comes off on your fingers it is definitely fake.

That is all for now. I will see if I can find something more a little later.

sumnom

The phrase on the reverse (the side showing in the top image) of the Annamese piece reads, "Imperial virtue spreads afar." As I mentioned before the Chinese piece is giving me the fake vibe but I like the Annamese charm. The calligraphy is quite nice. This is one reason why I suspect it is real. The Chinese piece has crude calligraphy and has what looks to be fake patina.

DCH

From Barker's '...cash coins of Vietnam', "In 1837, a new series of large cash coins was issued during the reign of Minh Mag. These coins all have a value of 60 Van and weigh about 25 to 30 grams.....These coins were initially intended as presentation pieces or royal reward but many of them found their way into circulation."

sumnom

DCH, does Barker say anything about how much these are worth?

jt88

The large one I don't think it is a real coin.

jt88

The small one if it is real the catalog numbe is 81.2. XF price is $3.5. I am sure you all know the price might be outday.

sumnom

Which catalogue did you find it in?

jt88

Catalog of world coin deluxe library edition.

sumnom

Krause?

jt88

Can anyone tell me how to post the picture?

DCH

Barker does not list price or rarity for the large coins.