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Questionable 1933 Goudey Ruth PSA 3

thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
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This one is really bad. Flip isn't even close.

1933 Goudey Ruth PSA 3

Edited to add: changed the title name. While I'm not 100% certain it's fake, I know I wouldn't buy it. Then again, I'm a little gun shy on these Goudeys after some bad experiences almost getting burned.
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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    What is wrong with it? I must be missing something because it looks alright to me.
  • MantleMarisFordBerraMantleMarisFordBerra Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is wrong with it? I must be missing something because it looks alright to me. >>



    Same here...all the obvious things on the card, like the color, the bleeding thru on back...everything looks like it's a real card to me. The flip is kinda funny, with the placement of the grade & all but maybe it's an old flip?

    I'm not an expert...maybe someone else can chime in?
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    two things that make it appear to be a Craigslist fake:

    1) no right justification on the VG 3 or the Cert #

    2) the font is slightly different, and the cert #'s are much closer together than a regular PSA flip.

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭✭
    I can see where one might think it's a fake, but I think it's just an old case/flip and is actually legit.
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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    I agree with the OP far as the alignment of the grade. Cert numbering looks ok to me though.

    It could be a fake. Personally I think it is a flip that was in the middle of a PSA transition phase on flips.

    Flips I believe started like this.

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    Then went to this.

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    Then went to this.
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    Then the .5 which is what we are getting back now...
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I too don't like the look of that cert.


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    The seller appears to be fine.

    The flip is odd, but unless the seller got snaked
    the card is likely good.

    He has sold a number of good cards with old flips.



    The Craig'sList gang - Hernandez Gang - favors
    this Ruth card, but I don't think this is one of theirs.

    If I was going to buy it, I would want a fresh scan
    that was not cropped so tight.





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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The flip looks wrong to me.

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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    looks legit
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller appears to be fine.

    The flip is odd, but unless the seller got snaked
    the card is likely good.

    He has sold a number of good cards with old flips.



    The Craig'sList gang - Hernandez Gang - favors
    this Ruth card, but I don't think this is one of theirs.

    If I was going to buy it, I would want a fresh scan
    that was not cropped so tight. >>



    Unfortunately, as you know, many honest sellers are stuck with these Craigslist fakes. I don't know the origins of this card, but I've never seen a PSA flip with right alignment (or lack thereof) like this one. The font size and spacing is unfamiliar to me as well.

    If he is one of the unlucky ones, the feedback likely wouldn't tell the story as this might be the only fake he has owned, and may not be aware it is a fake. Either way, I would pass on this card.
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  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    Looks good to me. I have owned several that the number grade doesn't go all the way to the right border.


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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's one of mine that I sent in myself.

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's one of mine that I sent in myself.

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    Do you recall what year that was submitted?





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  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a 1986 Patrick Ewing PSA 8 with a flip like Nam's Jordan.
    Mike
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you recall what year that was submitted? >>



    Don't hold me to it, but I wanna say 1998 or 1999.
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    after seeing the 2 examples above I think the card, flip, and slab are all legit. Just my 2 cents...
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭


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    I wonder if that Mantle and my NNOF were in the same collection at one time...I only say that because I've looked at some cert numbers that were relatively close to the Thomas in the past, and they were all rather highend cards.

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  • mikelowell25mikelowell25 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭
    card and flip are both fine
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    ????

    You guys are funny image

    Almost got burned??? Almost?

    Im glad Im not the seller... especially when newbies go shopping for R319s
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