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When you think of the four major sports, who is identified as the coaching legend in that sport ?

Is it Vince Lombardi in football ? Is it Casey Stengel in baseball ? Is it Red Auerbach in basketball ? Is it Toe Blake
or Scotty Bowman in hockey ? Does any other coach exceed these guys as far as legendary status is concerned ?

I think college football probably has the most coaching legends then any other sport come to think of it.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    college football: Joe Paterno

    Case closed.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think in the four majors, it goes like this:

    Baseball - Casey Stengel
    Football - Vince Lombardi
    Hockey - Scotty Bowman
    Basketball - Phil Jackson


    Tabe
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think in the four majors, it goes like this:

    Baseball - Casey Stengel
    Football - Vince Lombardi
    Hockey - Scotty Bowman
    Basketball - Phil Jackson


    Tabe >>



    I'd put Connie Mack on top in baseball. I agree with the other three.

    Steve
  • For baseball it's hard to say...McGraw, McCarthy, Stengel, Mack, Torre...probably more could add their names to the list. I don't think there's a true "stand out" like in others sports.
  • NFL Lombardi, Knoll

    College Paterno, Hayes
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you want to include college baseball, it's Rod Dedeaux.

    Steve
  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,984 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>college football: Joe Paterno

    Case closed. >>


    Knute Rockne
    Case overturned.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>college football: Joe Paterno

    Case closed. >>


    Knute Rockne
    Case overturned. >>



    I'm not going to take away anything from Knute Rockne, but if looking at the overall picture of wins, seasons, different era, etc, and a number of other factors, it's not even close. Paterno wins hands down. Actually, Bear Bryant should be a more fitting comparison to Paterno, not Knute Rockne.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    Wooden jumps to mind for me for hoops more so than Phil Jackson. 10 championships in 12 years.

    Football is tougher. 4 mentioned above (Lombardi, Rockne, Paterno and Bryant) are worth consideration.

    Baseball is tough.

    Hockey, I have no clue.
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    You gotta have consideration for Tom Landry in Pro Football.

    From our friends at Wikipedia:

    Thomas Wade "Tom" Landry (September 11, 1924 – February 12, 2000) was an American football player and coach. He is legendary for his successes as the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. He is ranked as one of the greatest and most innovative coaches in NFL history, creating many new formations and methods. He invented the now popular 4-3 defense, and the "flex defense" system made famous by the "Doomsday Defense" squads he created during his tenure with the Dallas Cowboys.

    Landry won 2 Super Bowl titles (VI, XII), 5 NFC titles, 13 Divisional titles, and compiled a 270-178-6 record, the 3rd most wins of all time for an NFL coach. His 20 career playoff victories are the most of any coach in NFL history. He was named the NFL Coach of the Year in 1966 and the NFC Coach of the Year in 1975.

    His most impressive professional accomplishment is his record for coaching the Dallas Cowboys to 20 consecutive winning seasons (1966–1985), an NFL record that remains unbroken and unchallenged. It remains one of the longest winning streaks in all of professional sports history.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You gotta have consideration for Tom Landry in Pro Football.

    From our friends at Wikipedia:

    Thomas Wade "Tom" Landry (September 11, 1924 – February 12, 2000) was an American football player and coach. He is legendary for his successes as the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. He is ranked as one of the greatest and most innovative coaches in NFL history, creating many new formations and methods. He invented the now popular 4-3 defense, and the "flex defense" system made famous by the "Doomsday Defense" squads he created during his tenure with the Dallas Cowboys.

    Landry won 2 Super Bowl titles (VI, XII), 5 NFC titles, 13 Divisional titles, and compiled a 270-178-6 record, the 3rd most wins of all time for an NFL coach. His 20 career playoff victories are the most of any coach in NFL history. He was named the NFL Coach of the Year in 1966 and the NFC Coach of the Year in 1975.

    His most impressive professional accomplishment is his record for coaching the Dallas Cowboys to 20 consecutive winning seasons (1966–1985), an NFL record that remains unbroken and unchallenged. It remains one of the longest winning streaks in all of professional sports history. >>



    I agree with your premise.

    In my view, Lombardi is the popular choice, and I think Landry is a better choice, but in my opinion I feel Don Shula is the best choice...but I'd have no problem with the decision if the overall vote choice would be Landry.
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    Dude..........image



    << <i>but I'd have no problem with the decision if the overall vote choice would be Landry. >>




    Aren't you going to have your "Eagles Nation" pass revoked? Why are you messing with my view of the stereotypical Philadelphia sports fan?
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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When you think of the four major sports, who is identified as the coaching legend in that sport ?

    Is it Vince Lombardi in football ? Is it Casey Stengel in baseball ? Is it Red Auerbach in basketball ? Is it Toe Blake
    or Scotty Bowman in hockey ? Does any other coach exceed these guys as far as legendary status is concerned ?

    I think college football probably has the most coaching legends then any other sport come to think of it. >>



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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    College Football Woody Hayes.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that for college football consideration should be given to adding the lengendary Eddie Robinson, of Grambling fame, to the list of legendary coaches. He won more games than any other college football coach.


  • << <i>College Football Woody Hayes. >>



    5 national championships

    Chuck Knoll - 4 super bowls
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dude..........image



    << <i>but I'd have no problem with the decision if the overall vote choice would be Landry. >>




    Aren't you going to have your "Eagles Nation" pass revoked? Why are you messing with my view of the stereotypical Philadelphia sports fan? >>



    Don't worry...one day I may say Andy Reid. image
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    I think that for college football consideration should be given to adding the lengendary Eddie Robinson, of Grambling fame, to the list of legendary coaches. He won more games than any other college football coach.

    +1
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd put Connie Mack on top in baseball. I agree with the other three.

    Steve >>


    C'mon, he was under .500 for his career.




    << <i>think ... sports ... coach ... john wooden >>


    Sorry, just can't get past all the cheating that went on at UCLA during Wooden's tenure. I think a better choice would be Pat Summitt or Coach K.

    Tabe
  • +1 Tom Landry
  • bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>think ... sports ... coach ... john wooden >>



    +1

    Definitely gotta put Coach Wooden as the best in College Basketball and consideration in all of College Sports.
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>College Football Woody Hayes. >>



    5 national championships

    Chuck Knoll - 4 super bowls >>



    Bear Bryant

    6 national championships
    14 SEC championships
    3 Coach of the Year
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    John Wooden and DEAN SMITH for college basketball. Pat Summitt, too.
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  • 1966CUDA1966CUDA Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭✭
    Being a Cornhusker fan, does Osborne fit in there anywhere? 3 Natl.Championships, was receiver coach from '67-'72 so was on coaching staff for two more Natl. Championship teams...had a 60-3 record his last 5 years of coaching.
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