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CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
On the hand-engraved 1849 pattern gold dollars, Judd-115 & 116, what kind of branch is it that goes around the square hole on the reverse?
Thanks.
TD
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks very much like a laurel branch.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you. Anybody else?
    TD
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt
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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    Picture courtesy of USPatterns.com

    Pollock describes it as a laurel wreath. Why do you ask??

    I've been looking for one.........
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for the picture. One picture is worth four thousand, eight hundred and fifty-seven words, adjusted for inflation.

    Somebody suggested a different kind of flora, and I wished to double check my implession that it was laurel, that's all.

    Thanks again,

    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    looks to me like it could be

    hemlock or pus*sy willow
    (*added because of forbidden word)




    or even birch before I would go with laurel
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks more like a weeping willow branch.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks more like a weeping willow branch. >>



    THAT was the other suggestion. However, I did not think that the leaves were long enough.

    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like 'something easy to make with an engraving tool' image
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like 'something easy to make with an engraving tool' image >>



    An excellent point. We are talking about a planchet something in the range of 15 mm here.
    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Longacre done this personally but the skill required was had by many given the sheer amount of hand engraved "love tokens" of the era that thoughtfully mutilated a good percentage of the surviving gold dollars.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thank you. Anybody else?
    TD >>



    I'm offended as Broadstruck knows leaves... I've raked trillions! imageimage
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Thank you. Anybody else?
    TD >>



    I'm offended as Broadstruck knows leaves... I've raked trillions! imageimage >>



    Coming soon to a yard near you!!!!

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Coming soon to a yard near you!!!!

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