SGC Holder Fans - Some recent graded cards
Albertdidit
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I love how cards look in the SGC holders. Over the past few months ive gotten some cards ive had for many many years graded by them. Its nothing 2 spectacular but they had some specials so I said why not
I thought the 72 Carew would be a 7 the 70 Palmer would be an 8 for sure - I looked them over again and realized there is some diamond cut issues with them. So my fault.
(i know you cant tell from my not so great scans all the details but just figured id share these) - I like them all but i guess you can say im a sucker for the 70 Bench - sweet card
I thought the 72 Carew would be a 7 the 70 Palmer would be an 8 for sure - I looked them over again and realized there is some diamond cut issues with them. So my fault.
(i know you cant tell from my not so great scans all the details but just figured id share these) - I like them all but i guess you can say im a sucker for the 70 Bench - sweet card
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i am a huge SGC fan
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
I think SGC does a good job with consistancy in grading.
I have some other cards from the 60's and 70's wish they were in a little better condition so i could grade them also and display them in the holders.
O.k..... Sweet Carews.... There, i said it.
Steve
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BTW, nice stuff!
<< <i>I wish SGC would command the same prices that PSA does. If they did, more cards would be in their holders..... >>
I totally agree with that
<< <i>I realize that the Mantle is slightly miscut however and I asked for no qualifiers could they not just drop it a grade instead.I have seen worse cards than mine which were given non qualified grades. >>
Are my eyes deceiving me, or does that Mantle looked trimmed?? I know I have had cards with that same "curve" on one side of the card that BOTH PSA & SGC refuse to grade and return as miscut. Judging by the scan you provided of the 1957 Topps Mantle, it appears to have the same curve on the top right front, and I am honestly surprised that SGC graded it....
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<< <i>I realize that the Mantle is slightly miscut however and I asked for no qualifiers could they not just drop it a grade instead.I have seen worse cards than mine which were given non qualified grades. >>
Are my eyes deceiving me, or does that Mantle looked trimmed?? I know I have had cards with that same "curve" on one side of the card that BOTH PSA & SGC refuse to grade and return as miscut. Judging by the scan you provided of the 1957 Topps Mantle, it appears to have the same curve on the top right front, and I am honestly surprised that SGC graded it.... >>
I bought the Mantle 30 years ago and really never paid much attention until after I got it back from PSA all that mattered to me at that time is the card did not have creases and decent borders and corners.Trimming or diamond cut were foriegn to me at that time unless trimming was obvious.I have recieved 4 1948 bowmans back from SGC that were EOT when I measured them and looked through a power lense I finally noticed what SGC noticed.I was able to sell them as
Authentic and trimmed.So maybe I got lucky with the Mantle it is definetly diamond cut however not trimmed.I do not plan on selling it.Both companies are prone for under or over grading cards.I had a beautiful looking 1959 Topps Hanebrink NO TRADE OPTION raw after sending it twice to PSA and getting back Card can not fit holder/miscut(I thought I might get lucky the second time)I sold it Raw stating clearly it was a Miscut and really was surpised what I got for it.The card was absolutley stuning and nearly pack fresh.The rarity of the card made it appealing for a Master raw set.
<< <i>Go to the SGC board and post PSA cards just to see if you get the same reaction.
BTW, nice stuff! >>
With the point being how bland and pale in comparison PSA cases are to SGC,
why on earth would you think ANY forum would favor the look of PSA holders?
Let alone the SGC forum?
HELLO! Mcfly!
I will say this about PSA. With the cards I've owned and they are mostly standard issue 1952-1976 topps and bowman...I never had a card damaged from the PSA holder itself. With SGC: I've had a few where the gasket was so hard pressed on the borders of the card that it cut into the edge....also I"ve seen where the gaskets were jagged cut and also cutting into the edges over time.
Yes,
PSA holders are not works of art; but they are fairly sturdy and meant to protect the card not completely enhance the look. They display each card fairly because of the clear plastic and you are somewhat able to see the cut/edges of the card which I believe is a plus. Has anyone ever scanned 1971 baseball in SGC holders///they are completely drowned out by the holder. Also, I think if I really wanted to try I could open an SGC holder cleanly just using my bare hands. Plus with lots of cards the SGC holders are too big in my opinion.
Mickey71
The issue was presentation and eye appeal. SGC easily wins.
As for security. Neither slab design offers better protection than a standard Card Saver II
SGC for the flaws you stated and PSA for cards than bounce around inside the holder creating wear off each corner.
<< <i>I wish SGC would command the same prices that PSA does. If they did, more cards would be in their holders..... >>
I do too.
Of course, SGC will command the same prices PSA does when collectors:
(1) Start grading their cards there.
(2) ...and register them on the SGC Set Registries.
<< <i>Mickey71
The issue was presentation and eye appeal. SGC easily wins.
As for security. Neither slab design offers better protection than a standard Card Saver II
SGC for the flaws you stated and PSA for cards than bounce around inside the holder creating wear off each corner. >>
Considering I can bend a rigid slab like a Card Saver, I agree (yeah right). And, since I don't like to shake my slabs like a redneck shakes a baby, I don't have any issues with the corner damage or wear.
What I have issue with is the ease with which an SGC slab separates itself, and the love that people have for how impenetrable a BGS slab is. I know the BGS part is OT, but whatever....not saying a PSA slab is perfect, but I prefer it over either of the other two.
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<< <i>Go to the SGC board and post PSA cards just to see if you get the same reaction.
BTW, nice stuff! >>
With the point being how bland and pale in comparison PSA cases are to SGC,
why on earth would you think ANY forum would favor the look of PSA holders?
Let alone the SGC forum?
HELLO! Mcfly! >>
Hi! Sarcasm called and would like to introduce himself.
They had it Friday of last week, it was back here on today, 6 days round trip. $17 grading fee, NO MEMBERSHIP FEE, and return shipping, total $35.10, should have been about $30 but I insured it at a 9 level.
did you pull it yourself?
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
<< <i>And, since I don't like to shake my slabs like a redneck shakes a baby >>
But a previous owner or the mailman may have.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
<< <i>did you pull it yourself? >>
Yes, in the 2nd to last rip here from BBCE. About 6-8 months ago now I would guess. Just didn't want to pay PSA over $100 to grade it, very happy with SGC.
I honestly think you got a very conservative grade. Looks like a 92 or 8.5
<< <i>Gameusedhoop,
I honestly think you got a very conservative grade. Looks like a 92 or 8.5 >>
i was just thinking that as well
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Probably could have been a 8.5 SGC 92 on any given day. Probably a 8 because of all the white surface dots on Gretzky and there seems to be alot of fish eyes although they are very faint in the blue.
Still a well centered and attractive card. Congrats !!
I'll post mine once i get it from SGC. Would have sent it to PSA but for the same reason as Gameusedhoop didn't want to pay a arm and a leg to get it graded just to have to break it out because they got the grade wrong. ooops !! Did i say that out loud ?
Cheers, Steve
<< <i>The issue was presentation and eye appeal. SGC easily wins. >>
I actually don't care for the look or functionality of the SGC slabs. The black insert looks nice for white bordere cards but if you're displaying a PSA card on a dark surface you get the same effect. I have had cards damaged when they slid over the top of the black insert. I think the slabs are bigger than they need to be, are WAY to easy to crack (although PSA's aren't overly tough either), and there is just something about the extremely glossy surfaces of the SGC slabs that are kind of a turn off to me.
These are my opinions and I'm sure no one cares but there they are.
My small collection
Want List:
'61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
Cardinal T206 cards
Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
as well as 50 or more SGC slabs
Not even close Psa is by far much easier to crack.
While I place Beckett as a garage operation, I will give them this.
Their slabs are some tough SOB's to crack.
<< <i>I'd like to give an opinion; but I can't when it's a fact. SGC slabs are by "far" easier to crack than PSA. It's not even close. Not even close. C'mon. >>
Agreed. I've cracked a couple PSA slabs and they were like Fort Knox compared to the SGC slabs.
My small collection
Want List:
'61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
Cardinal T206 cards
Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
you occassionally come across a few tougher or easier ones to crack on both sides.
But in my personal experience. Ive had much better luck cracking PSA slabs cleanly than any other.
Most were so easy to crack without damage that I began to save and reuse the slabs
with custom made labels to display small sets in.
They also work very well in helping me highlight my 1972 PSA Topps Football with odd ball items.
I haven't gotten around to the custom labels for the 72 Wrappers yet. But I think they will look nice
with the rest of the set.
Again this is just my personal experience from having cracked a minimum of 100 or more of each kind of slab.
I have over 100 cleanly cracked slabs if anyone would like to make their own custom cards
1. Best protection - BGS/BVG (tampering and dropping, etc..)
2. Appearance - SGC ( sure darker border cards might not look right, maybe they need to come up with a white background for this and then people can have there's reholdered for a low fee)
3. Value - PSA (SGC falls a little short except for the rarites that are extremely hard to find and of course the cards PSA does not have a holder for)
Anyways, Here's what was in my mailbox today !! Two days to grade and two days to recieve it !!
Invoice Tracking
Status Date
Received 09/20/2010
Shipped 09/22/2010
Details
Item # Year Publisher Set Card# Player Name Description Grade
1 1979-80 O-Pee-Chee 18 WAYNE GRETZKY ROOKIE 96
<< <i>Both slabs are sealed by basically the same process
you occassionally come across a few tougher or easier ones to crack on both sides.
But in my personal experience. Ive had much better luck cracking PSA slabs cleanly than any other.
Most were so easy to crack without damage that I began to save and reuse the slabs
with custom made labels to display small sets in.
They also work very well in helping me highlight my 1972 PSA Topps Football with odd ball items.
I haven't gotten around to the custom labels for the 72 Wrappers yet. But I think they will look nice
with the rest of the set.
Again this is just my personal experience from having cracked a minimum of 100 or more of each kind of slab.
I have over 100 cleanly cracked slabs if anyone would like to make their own custom cards >>
scary, flat out scary! Do you have any SGC cracked, then re-used examples?
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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<< <i>Both slabs are sealed by basically the same process
you occassionally come across a few tougher or easier ones to crack on both sides.
But in my personal experience. Ive had much better luck cracking PSA slabs cleanly than any other.
Most were so easy to crack without damage that I began to save and reuse the slabs
with custom made labels to display small sets in.
They also work very well in helping me highlight my 1972 PSA Topps Football with odd ball items.
I haven't gotten around to the custom labels for the 72 Wrappers yet. But I think they will look nice
with the rest of the set.
Again this is just my personal experience from having cracked a minimum of 100 or more of each kind of slab.
I have over 100 cleanly cracked slabs if anyone would like to make their own custom cards >>
scary, flat out scary! Do you have any SGC cracked, then re-used examples? >>
It wouldnt take a whole lot to take out the old card, insert a new, lower grade card, and sell it.
Yep, pretty scary.
The only slab I can't open without destoying it is BGS's and I've never seen a person who could for that matter and I doubt their is...
Anyhow I used to have a bunch of pics of SGC slabs I've opened (no tools/ bare hands) and threw a random card in the holder and scanned but I've erased a bunch of stuff..
Did find this one though and might have a few more..