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First a "coins in lucite" thread, then a colonial thread...here's a "Fugio in lucite&

MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
According to Louis Jordan's University of Notre Dame Department of Special Collections website:

Apparently, a full keg of uncirculated Fugios were acquired by the Bank of New York in 1788; these coins were stored in their basement and not rediscovered until they changed their location in 1856. The coins were then put in cotton bags and again forgotten until another rediscovery in 1926. From that time, they were slowly distributed to officials and favored customers. In 1948, the American Numismatic Society examined the remaining 1,641 Fugio's. Several examples were donated to the American Numismatic Society and others were sold to collectors. Currently the bank has 819 pieces.

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Images courtesy of ColonialCoinUnion.

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WoW so how do you crack it out of that holder? image


    Hoard the keys.
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭
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    (not my coin; pic from the web)


    i think orville can contribute to this thread also, seems like he had a pic of a lucite Fugio from the NY Bank Hoard in his sigline at one point

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭
    as a side note, seems like i recall reading that the Bank of NY Hoard of Fugios included over 800 examples and it has been inventoried by Tony Terranova most recently.......it is entirely possible that these were deposited with that bank while they still circulated

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bump because I think it's cool (and because it's not a 24-page ad).

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat coin and even neater holder. Was it cleaned before it was embedded in the lucite?

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭
    >>Was it cleaned before it was embedded in the lucite?>>

    yes, they were

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>>>Was it cleaned before it was embedded in the lucite?>>

    yes, they were >>



    Was it a quick dip or something more harsh? Anyone know?

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  • << <i>

    << <i>>>Was it cleaned before it was embedded in the lucite?>>

    yes, they were >>



    Was it a quick dip or something more harsh? Anyone know? >>



    The ones I have seen looked dipped, and not abrasively cleaned, but I have only seen a few.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CCU---Does the lucite holder add value to the coin or does it detract from the value? Are you aware if any of these coins have been removed from the lucite? How can they be removed without damaging the coin? If I owned one, I would leave it in the lucite since that is part of the history/provenance of the coin and it's an interesting story.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • Would Acetone dissolve the lucite ?¿

    Sure would love to own one of these (dipped or not).
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WoW so how do you crack it out of that holder? image >>


    Band saw.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    From what I understand, removal from the lucite is not an option. Does anyone know of a way to liberate the coin without killing it?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I read somewhere that you can freeze it and then smack it with a hammer to shatter the lucite. Not sure I'd want to try it with an expensive coin though.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • They tend to sell for a slight premium based on the holders (as compared to the value of a raw, cleaned AU / Unc. Fugio).

    However, if you are so inclined, I have heard that you can remove these from the lucite by putting the block in a freezer and then smashing it with a large hammer, though I have never seen that done and can imagine that even if that did work the coin might get damaged in the process.
  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They tend to sell for a slight premium based on the holders (as compared to the value of a raw, cleaned AU / Unc. Fugio).

    However, if you are so inclined, I have heard that you can remove these from the lucite by putting the block in a freezer and then smashing it with a large hammer, though I have never seen that done and can imagine that even if that did work the coin might get damaged in the process. >>



    I'd love to see that on You Tube! So, anybody here got the guts to do it?


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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at the picture in my signature line. This was the one I bought from Coin Rarities Online about 3 years ago (was it 4 now?) I have two of these. They are extremely hard to find. It is the same one as the pictures posted by the OP.

    Indeed, the fugio inside the lucite holder are dipped and somewhat harshly in my opinion.

    As far as assessing the value of these things, I would say the lucite holder packaging now represents 80% of the value of the coin and holder.

    Removing the lucite holder would be in a word, DUMB.

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