Calling 1961 topps experts

handyman

33 1 17263589 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 TOPPS 47 NL PITCHING LEADERS VERTICAL BLACK BAR Card US

Ok, I didnt even put Vertical black bar on the sub. And just realized that this was on there. Can anyone shed some light on this. Is this a new variation or whats the deal?
Also why is this not in the master set?
Thanks

bobsbbcards

Definitely a variation, but I didn't realize that PSA was noting it on the flip. Here's an image (stolen) that shows no vertical bar, and a 2nd image (not as much stolen since it's my card) that shows the bar (above the right side of Vern Law's cap).





There are 338 copies of the "No Vertical Bar" currently in circulation and three of the "Vertical Black Bar" variety. Since PSA has only recently started recording the variation, I'm sure there are many "Vertical Black Bar" cards (such as mine) ensconced in unmarked slabs.

A quick check of current eBay auctions showed no other "Vertical Black Bar" cards. I have no idea of the true ratio.

WinPitcher

Hi Bob

Can that really be a variation? Looks more like a printing error.

Steve

bobsbbcards

<< <i>Hi Bob

Can that really be a variation? Looks more like a printing error.

Steve >>


Like the '58 Herrer and the '57 Bakep? I couldn't agree more.

bobsbbcards

I wish more people had their cards scanned for their registry sets. That way we could at least get a feel for how many have the "bar". Anyone else out there have a scan that shows it?

KbKards

Very obvious print line as evidenced by mass of print scuff lines at the top edge.

digicat

<< <i>I wish more people had their cards scanned for their registry sets. >>





A page full of numbers and no pics is boring.

KbKards

The line next to Law's hat is definitely a print line that extends up to top edge. Are you sure the black line they're talking about isn't the I next to the 19 in Burdette's games won?

KbKards

Confirmed that the variation is the I next to 19 in Burdette's wins. A quick check shows many with it and without it.

Hallco

<< <i> Are you sure the black line they're talking about isn't the I next to the 19 in Burdette's games won? >>



That's what I was thinking also!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

1961 Topps
33,248,369 and more, have spacing differences between the position and players name on front
7 Team Card A- White Sox logo has White wings B- White Sox logo has Yellow wings
11 Curt Simmons A- Missing line between G/IP on back B- Has line between G/IP on back
17 Checklist A- Boxes even with names on front B- Boxes slightly higher than names on the front
47 Multiplayer A- Without mark after Burdette 19 B- With mark after Burdette 19
98 Checklist A- Checklist in Yellow on front,98 Black on White B- Checklist in red on front C- Checklist in Yellow on front, 98 White on Black
106 Whitney Herzog A- Missing line between 2B/3B on back B- Has line between 2B/3B on back
107 Seth Morehead A- Top of copyright line cut off on back B- Full copyright line on back
108 Dan Dobbek A- Missing line between 2B/3B on back B- Has line between 2B/3B on back
112 Chico Fernandez A- Missing line between LEA/G on back B- Has line between LEA/G on back
161 Sherman Jones A- Stats on back have broken line above M in Team B- Solid line above M in Team
183 Andre Rodgers A- 2 Blue lines on Left shoulder B- No Blue lines
189 Checklist Card found with players #4 showing or not showing A- Copyright symbol adjacent to 263 Hamlin B- Copyright symbol adjacent to 264 Glen Hobbie
203 Eddie Bressoud A- Jagged Blue line to left of cap B- No jagged Blue line
220 Al Dark A- Missing line between AB/R on back B- Has line between AB/R on back
271 Jim Landis A- Photo extends past top border B- Photo completely inside top border
273 Checklist A- Copyright symbol adjacent to 336 Mincher B- Copyright symbol adjacent to 339 Gene Baker
298 Jim Golden A- 298 on back B- 293 on back
361 Checklist A- No ad on back – Topps Baseball in Black B- Special Feature ad on back, Topps baseball in Yellow
437 Checklist Card found with Umpires mask strap showing or not showing A- #440 is Luis Aparicio B- #440 is Louis Aparicio
447 Harry Bright A- Blue (swoosh) in sky, upper right corner B- No Blue (swoosh) C- Blue (swoosh) airbrushed
463 Jack Fisher A- Regular card B- Braves team card, should be #426
466 Ron Moeller A- Missing line between G/IP on back B- Has line between G/IP on back
492 Ron Fairly A- On the back on the ball under stitching, area is Green B- On the back on the ball under stitching, area is White
504 Billy Consolo A- Missing line between 2B/3B on back B- Has line between 2B/3B on back
516 Checklist A- Grass showing by feet B- Dirt baseline showing

lsutigers1973

<< <i>and a 2nd image (not as much stolen since it's my card) that shows the bar (above the right side of Vern Law's cap). >>



FAIL

bobsbbcards

Dang! I thought I was rich.

Shows what I get for thinking my print-line damaged overgraded 8 was worth anything.

Mickey71

What an incredible variation. It must be worth at least a million.

Morgoth

If it was covering a vulgar phrase, now then we would have something.

handyman

Are you kidding. The guy won 191 games that year. That is a record that will never be broken. This card is worth at least 90,000.00 or a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 8.

Nathaniel1960

I own this card in a PSA 9 (oc). I'll dig it out and see if its got that bar thingy.

WinPitcher

Good call KB

That IMO is more significant than the print line.


Steve

WinPitcher

Just checked my set, does not have it.

Now I have to find one..................grrr


Steve

handyman

Ill trade you my rare variation for the rest of your 1961 PSA graded set? Oh and another 50,000.00 cash.. Its a POP 2!!!!!!!! IN THE WORLD!! .

WinPitcher

My set is in a binder. I have just a few keys graded.


I'd prefer a vg/ex example of this card.


Congrats on getting it holdered.


Steve

Nathaniel1960

Mine has the vertical bar, which makes me think it may be the more common.

itzagoner

i thought a vertical bar was just someplace where they water down your drinks.

ya live, ya learn.