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Real Estate Tax
Well Permit Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Inheritance Tax
Road Usage Tax
CDL license Tax
Dog License Tax
State Income Tax
Food License Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Gross Receipts Tax
Social Security Tax
Service Charge Tax
Fishing License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Building Permit Tax
IRS Interest Charges
Hunting License Tax
Marriage License Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Personal Property Tax
Accounts Receivable Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Capital Gains Tax
Ticket Tax, you know the one you go to court for not using turn signals Ect...
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. We also were A Common Law Country!
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What is going on here? Looks like someone wants to go back to "Little House on the Prairie".

    I think the last time there was no National Debt, was 1836. The last time we were the most prosperous country was 2000. The last time we had the largest middle class in the world in 1975. Mom still stays home to raise the kids (in my house).

    Where on earth are there no taxes? Somalia, Brunei, Macao
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    The National mood is for zero taxes but maximum benefits. The largest recipient

    of Governmental benefits are the large offshore corporations. The money these giants

    save on taxes funds the enormous lobbying and payola of our National Representatives.

    Our Government does not truly represent the working people, they only give us lip service

    a few months before National Elections. Very sad indeed.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is something like 106 different taxes priced into a loaf of bread.
    While taxes may be necessary and/or beneficial, the tax system is horribly
    inefficient. The paperwork required for all those different tax programs
    is an unneccesary and excessive burden on the economy.

    image
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is something like 106 different taxes priced into a loaf of bread.
    While taxes may be necessary and/or beneficial, the tax system is horribly
    inefficient. The paperwork required for all those different tax programs
    is an unneccesary and excessive burden on the economy. >>



    I have to agree. I do OK but I'm not rich. It costs me about 1% in fees to my tax preparer, plus probably at least 20 hours of my time getting ready to visit my accountant so he can do my taxes. This is ridiculous... I could be spending that time and money trying to make more money.
  • ( my opinion is) the cheerleading squad aka mainstream media will stop at nothing to distort what has really happened to America over the last ~45 years.
    America is simply burnt toast. It'll never be the same again.
    the population has simply grown too big. too many oppressed "special" minorities & bums. it's just that simple.
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
    >>




  • delistampsdelistamps Posts: 714 ✭✭✭
    When Hurricane Earl threatened the East coast, I wanted police and national guard to assist in the preparations and, if necessary, the cleanup efforts.
    When we were socked by the blizzards last winter, I wanted the roads cleared so I could get to work, the pharmacy, and the grocery store.
    When my oldest son started to drive, I was so thankful that the roads were in good condition, street lights were functional, and traffic laws were being enforced.
    When it was time for him to apply for college, I was happy that he (and his younger brother) had the benefit of some really great public schools.
    When I celebrate Labor Day, I'm grateful that we have agencies enforcing child labor laws and occupational safety and health laws.
    When I meet veterans, I appreciate their service and feel good about supporting the benefits they are receiving.
    This week when I vote in the Maryland primary, I'm glad that the state has early voting. Voting is more convenient, even though it may cost a little more to run the election.
    When I read in the Forum that a coin dealer had recently been brutalized and his coins stolen, I was glad he had a 911 system to call and am hopeful that public employees will catch, prosecute, and imprison the perpetrators.
    And each time I look at my coin and currency collection, I appreciate that these items did not simply "appear"; they involved legislation, quality control, decisions on printing or mintage limits and pricing, etc. Sure, we sometimes squawk about the decisions that are made (how do you like those new Lincolns?) but they do keep the hobby chugging along!

    It's a shame that the powerful interests that have driven down federal, state, and local tax rates have put politicians in a position where they resort to an inefficient fee structure for raising revenue.
  • I believe, TARP went to bail out the Banksters and the first round of stimulus went to bail out the labor unions. Putting them back to work, roads, teachers, large corporations that have labor union employees.

    The Tea Party was a formation of these policies.

    What is truly amazing is the blatant corruption in our government.

    I quess people are reactionary and not independant thinkers, we'll see this reaffirmed in 2011 or 2012 when everyone worldwide will try to buy gold and silver, but supply will not meet demand. It's been 2 or 3 years now since many investors have gone to PM's, but yet demand has not hit main street yet. At least what I can see.
















  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mainstream media

    What exactly is that? The opposite of non-mainstream media?

    The Tea Party was a formation of these policies

    “What they don’t say is that, in part, this is a grassroots citizens’ movement brought to you by a bunch of oil billionaires.”
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When Hurricane Earl threatened the East coast, I wanted police and national guard to assist in the preparations and, if necessary, the cleanup efforts.
    When we were socked by the blizzards last winter, I wanted the roads cleared so I could get to work, the pharmacy, and the grocery store.
    When my oldest son started to drive, I was so thankful that the roads were in good condition, street lights were functional, and traffic laws were being enforced.
    When it was time for him to apply for college, I was happy that he (and his younger brother) had the benefit of some really great public schools.
    When I celebrate Labor Day, I'm grateful that we have agencies enforcing child labor laws and occupational safety and health laws.
    When I meet veterans, I appreciate their service and feel good about supporting the benefits they are receiving.
    This week when I vote in the Maryland primary, I'm glad that the state has early voting. Voting is more convenient, even though it may cost a little more to run the election.
    When I read in the Forum that a coin dealer had recently been brutalized and his coins stolen, I was glad he had a 911 system to call and am hopeful that public employees will catch, prosecute, and imprison the perpetrators.
    And each time I look at my coin and currency collection, I appreciate that these items did not simply "appear"; they involved legislation, quality control, decisions on printing or mintage limits and pricing, etc. Sure, we sometimes squawk about the decisions that are made (how do you like those new Lincolns?) but they do keep the hobby chugging along!

    It's a shame that the powerful interests that have driven down federal, state, and local tax rates have put politicians in a position where they resort to an inefficient fee structure for raising revenue. >>



    Well said. Gorgeous local, state, national parks. Clean water, clean food. Relatively clean air. Flush the toilet and it works. Garbage hauled away for safe and sanitary disposal.

    We live in a utopia and we're told not to appreciate it. Or that it costs too much.

    That said: waste is ugly. Cheating the system is ugly, immoral, and unethical. Doesn't matter if you're an oil company or welfare mother.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>mainstream media

    What exactly is that? The opposite of non-mainstream media?

    The Tea Party was a formation of these policies

    “What they don’t say is that, in part, this is a grassroots citizens’ movement brought to you by a bunch of oil billionaires.” >>



    Thanks for the link, Penny manimage Your first post I thoroughly enjoyed!image
    Avid collector of GSA's.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>mainstream media

    What exactly is that? The opposite of non-mainstream media?

    The Tea Party was a formation of these policies

    “What they don’t say is that, in part, this is a grassroots citizens’ movement brought to you by a bunch of oil billionaires.” >>



    Thank you for the link. Those brothers rock. The original Tea party had some rich members as well. Samuel Adams was wealthy by 1773 standards. A great American.

    Did you know that in 2007 the Tea Party broke the one-day fund-raising record by raising over six million dollars? I'm guessing that a lot of that did come $20 to $100 at a time.

    Oh, the mainstream media consists primarily of CBC, NBC and ABC. They are purposed to be liberal biased. I do find them that way, but that's probably just me. In the print medium, the New Yorker would qualify as elitest. Mainstream Plus if they were a coin. That's where your link was from.

    MJimage

    edited for spelling
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <We live in utopia and we're told not to appreciate it. Or that it costs too much.>

    That's in Illinois? I did not know that. MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No need to go back to Little House EagleEye, just back to the 80's or 90's would do fine, you know before the bankers created their own monetary and credit system and before the end of Glass-Steagall as well as the Commodities Futures Modernization Act. At that time we had gorgeous local, state, national parks, clean water, clean food and clean air. The toilets worked fine back then too and garbage was hauled away for "safe and sanitary" disposal. Not sure I buy the "safe and sanitary" disposal of waste since 85% of the solid waste in the US is still disposed of in landfills in the central US (ie where land is still plentiful and cheap and the stink is not close to urban centers).

    We had it made 15-25 years ago and allowed the bankers and politicians to take it into overdrive. I could live fine on a regular tube color TV and no internet. Actually my current TV is a tube TV and has less features than the one I had in 1985. Heck, I got along fine w/o the internet until I was 48...mainly got a computer to join the coin forum...lol. Don't really need a cell phone and hardly ever use it. Computers are great, they helped streamline our banking system so the banks could get even bigger, brought about high speed Wall Street trading, and they allowed us to be even more efficient and ship even more of our manufacturing base overseas. What's not to like?

    Taxes are a symptom of a fiat economy that is constantly debasing its currency and growing its debt in order to survive. The Romans taxed themselves to death as they destroyed their utopian society/economy. They had state of the art running water, toilets, and sports stadiums as well. They also had healthier food and cleaner air. Fiat systems can only survive by more taxes since human nature prevents govts from doing the right thing.

    roadrunner
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  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    Even Ann Ryan said that taxes were fair.

    The problem is not so much taxes but the waste and bourocreacy they create.

    Imagine how much safer and cleaner the streets would be if goverment didnt waste so much.

    Taxes should cover our military, police force, judges and the protection of our rights and of our property.( we should be able to do this with import duties and a flat tax)

    It should not be spent on bridges to nowhere, pointless wars, foreing aid and multi generational welfare programs.

    "Where on earth are there no taxes? Somalia, Brunei, Macao "

    Monaco has no taxes image
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
  • Scarry future in the U.S.!
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where on earth are there no taxes? Somalia, Brunei, Macao "...

    New Hampshire? image

    It's pretty close with only municipal property taxes but no broad sales tax or income tax. The state does have narrower taxes on meals, lodging, vehicles, business and investment income, and tolls on state roads. Sounds like a good place to be renting in.

    roadrunner
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  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Yea, my property taxes went up this yearimage

    Small farm house on 9 acres. 5 barns. $85.55 this year!image

    Last year the taxes were $83.20image

    When I bought the place in 1994 the property tax was $33.10image
    Avid collector of GSA's.
  • VikingDudeVikingDude Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭
    I can sum it up in one sentence: the line between "needs" and "wants" have become blurred and distorted. Times have changed, and sometimes not for the better. Look at schools 30-40 years ago; they were all pretty basic. Now there are computers in every room and technology is everywhere. Playgrounds used to be basic but now they "need" to have fancy equipment. The buildings themselves used to be basic now they are overflowing with large, open spaces and even mutliple lunch lines so our kids can have food choices. Towns and schools used to just have parks, now they "need" to run dog parks, hockey arenas, softball complexes, golf courses, soccer fields, etc. Jails used to be basic; now look what we "need" to house criminals. And to catch those criminals? Just think of the technology it takes nowadays in police cars, 911 systems, etc.

    Just look around you at how things have really changed over the last 30-40 years. It all adds up, folks.


  • << <i>Sales Tax
    Hotel Tax
    School Tax
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Property Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Inventory Tax
    Car Rental Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Dog License Tax
    State Income Tax
    Food License Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Fishing License Tax
    Federal Income Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    IRS Interest Charges
    Hunting License Tax
    Marriage License Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Capital Gains Tax
    Ticket Tax, you know the one you go to court for not using turn signals Ect...
    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. We also were A Common Law Country! >>



    Hmmmmm..........It appears to me that we are not taxed enough. image
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  • << <i>mainstream media

    What exactly is that? The opposite of non-mainstream media?

    The Tea Party was a formation of these policies

    “What they don’t say is that, in part, this is a grassroots citizens’ movement brought to you by a bunch of oil billionaires.” >>




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  • LMAO. I like the way you stacked the text to look like a mountain of taxes.






    << <i>Sales Tax
    Hotel Tax
    School Tax
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Property Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Inventory Tax
    Car Rental Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Dog License Tax
    State Income Tax
    Food License Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Fishing License Tax
    Federal Income Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    IRS Interest Charges
    Hunting License Tax
    Marriage License Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Capital Gains Tax
    Ticket Tax, you know the one you go to court for not using turn signals Ect...
    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. We also were A Common Law Country! >>

  • A democrat came up to me one day and asked if he could borrow a thousand dollars.So I loaned him the money.A few weeks later I asked him if he had the money to pay me back?He said sure but it would cost me 100 bucks to get it back.This is Obamanomics.He wants to charge you interest on money he borrowed from you.Think about it !
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