1969 O-PEE-CHEE Hockey PSA 9s For Sale + 1972 OPC Tony Esposito PSA 9

e64mtd

1.) 1969 OPC #187 Johnny Bower PSA 9, serial number 16258172

2.) 1969 OPC #189 Terry Sawchuk PSA 9, serial number 60094170

3.) 1969 OPC #157 Alex Delvecchio PSA 9, serial number 16258212

4.) 1969 OPC #139 Eddie Shack PSA 9, serial number 16258482

5.) 1969 OPC NNO Gordie Howe PSA 9, serial number 16210360

6.) 1972 OPC #137 Tony Esposito PSA 9, serial number 60089124

Looking for PSA SMR book value or best offer. Would love to find a buyer for the lot and will offer a better deal for someone interested in all cards together but I will, of course, sell them individually. I will only accept PayPal as a source of payment.

jimrad

1969 OPC NNO Gordie Howe PSA 9

SMR is $300
VCP is $119

1969 OPC #189 Terry Sawchuk PSA 9

SMR $130
VCP $54

#139 Eddie Shack PSA 9

SMR $85
VCP $27

just saying...

e64mtd

So you quote VCP when trying to knock down the prices of my cards but the PSA SMR when you're trying to push the sale of the 1979 Topps rips? Your standards have now been doubled!

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=786216

Just saying...

;-)

jimrad

Don't make bad comparisons - just saying

1979 Topps

Wayne Gretzky

SMR - $1400
VCP -$1,488.62


Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $1,488.62

7/29/10 eBay Auction | Image smalltraditions a***r 40 $1,567.89
6/10/10 Mile High Auction | Image 6 $1,326.57
4/9/10 eBay Auction | Image exporterjdo b***- 27 $1,247.00
4/1/10 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector a***c 19 $1,436.01
3/26/10 eBay Listing | Image vintagesnowmobiles myreddog1968 Best Offer $1,800.00

e64mtd

Cherry pick much? I'm not making a bad comparison at all. I have made a direct comparison as to how we are both using PSA SMR as a guideline for quoting card pricing. You for some reason can't identify the hypocrisy in using one favorable source of data to support your sales while using another unfavorable source to criticize mine. In essence, you like to use data supporting high prices when promoting a sale but utilize the low pricing when taking the buyers point of view - my apologies, but that sounds like a typical card dealer to me.

How about you show some VCP data on the other cards from the 1979 set as they average much less than your PSA SMR quoted prices? I'm also curious as to why you specifically picked those three cards from my lot to quote? Did the other cards not support the point you were trying to illustrate? I wouldn't be able to comment on that as I do not subscribe to VCP.

I've also seen a number of Topps Gretzky rookies go for significantly less than $1400 over the last 12 months. Why don't you apply all sales over this period to illustrate this?

Finally, please note I did not indicate that I expect PSA SMR as the realized pricing for my cards. I simply used this as a starting point and I would obviously be willing to give a discount to book value for the entire lot. Otherwise, I wouldn't have noted that I would accept the best offer for these cards. I am not a professional dealer and am a very reasonable person to work with. I am only selling these cards because I have decided to switch my entire focus to collecting rookie cards only. That being said, I would happily consider trades with anyone who is interested and has vintage rookie cards in their possession.

jimrad

ok here's your other 3
1969 OPC #187 Johnny Bower PSA 9
SMR - $85
VCP - $45

1969 OPC #157 Alex Delvecchio PSA 9
SMR - $85
VCP - $27

1972 OPC #137 Tony Esposito PSA 9
SMR - $110
VCP - $ 82

Here is the total PSA 9 Gretzky sales in the VCP archives:

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $1,488.62

7/29/10 eBay Auction | Image smalltraditions a***r 40 $1,567.89
6/10/10 Mile High Auction | Image 6 $1,326.57
4/9/10 eBay Auction | Image exporterjdo b***- 27 $1,247.00
4/1/10 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector a***c 19 $1,436.01
3/26/10 eBay Listing | Image vintagesnowmobiles myreddog1968 Best Offer $1,800.00
12/9/09 H.O.S. $1,857.03
12/1/09 eBay Image chrisportersc s***3 28 $1,400.00
10/8/09 eBay Image prewarcardcollector e***d 23 $1,401.26
8/9/09 Memory Lane Image 6 $1,420.57
6/22/09 eBay Image liamscards _***i 48 $1,327.00
6/4/09 eBay Image prewarcardcollector 1***6 32 $1,500.00
4/28/09 eBay Image gamewornauctionsdotnet 800hitter Best Offer $1,250.00
4/28/09 eBay Image feelzstar d***u 45 $1,352.00
4/26/09 eBay Image comm784 d***u 29 $1,284.00
4/5/09 Memory Lane Image 7 $1,458.18
12/14/08 Memory Lane Image 4 $1,420.57
12/11/08 eBay Image j.esquire n***5 28 $1,102.00
11/16/08 eBay Image staycaptive f***f 37 $1,213.00
11/11/08 eBay Image gamewornauctionsdotnet 800hitter Best Offer $1,350.00
9/27/08 eBay Image homestake_coins go242007 37 $1,236.00
7/6/08 eBay Image liamscards chadlatour 20 $1,388.88
6/25/08 eBay Image tonyfaysportscollectibles youalmosthadit 13 $1,375.00
6/5/08 eBay Image j.esquire erdnyce 21 $1,484.09
5/18/08 Memory Lane Image 7 $1,325.40
5/11/08 eBay Image rob66 eruz4444 19 $1,376.01


I am not a dealer, I just wanted to give you the $$ you should expect the people that post here to pay for the cards you offered. I wish you nothing but good luck in selling your cards and as a hockey collector I wish they would command higher prices, but alas they do not.
Obviously Gretzky is the reason anyone gets the 1979 packs, as far as the other players card values in 1979 here are the current SMR and VCP.

Dryden - PSA 9
SMR - $35
VCP - $126

Howe - PSA 9
SMR - $75
VCP - $34

Hull - PSA 9
SMR - $55
VCP - $14.50

Bossy - PSA 9
SMR - $45
VCP - $100

mcolney1

e64mtd - Don't you hate how facts mess up a perfectly good argument

e64mtd

Ha ha, funny! It seems every internet group forum has it's "police force" who love to enforce the rules for the safety and comfort of others, especially against someone with a low post count whom is likely new to the area and perhaps considered part of the "unwashed" masses.

As I said before, I don't have a subscription to VCP and have no ability to analyze and discuss the values assigned to the cards by "jimrad" but the facts in no way "messed up a perfectly good argument". I wasn't arguing about the value of my cards; I was pointing out the hypocrisy of "jimrad" using one set of data (in this case PSA SMR) to support his pricing for sales of the Topps packs while also finding the time to single me out for using the same source of data for the sales of my cards. Upon my pointing this out, "jimrad" immediately focussed his argument on pricing rather than the source of the data itself.

I'm not sure where the confusion lies, nor where is there satisfaction to be gained in all this for "jimrad" or "mcolney 1" but I guess everyone needs their niche where they have the support of a clique of some sort. Congratulations to you both if you have that here. I want no part of that as I have better things to do with my time. I thought I would simply post my cards here for sale and if there was anyone interested I would negotiate a price with this person. If said person provided me with data indicating my cards were worth price "B" rather than price "A", I would certainly take that into account when negotiating the price of the lot.

All this being said, if you want to discuss facts, it's highly misleading starting a forum about a 1979 Topps rip while posting a $1400 value for a Gretzky rookie as bait for pack pricing. With a 3.7% chance of pulling a Gretzky on a per pack basis and a 3.2% chance of that card being a PSA 9 or greater (based only on submitted cards, the actual percentage is likely even much lower) your chances of getting a $1400 return on the $65 pack purchase is almost astronomically low, approximately 0.1%. If you're hoping to get a PSA 9 Gretzky, just save your money and pick one up in auction. That being said, I bust vintage wax all the time, not to pull mint cards, simply because I appreciate the nostalgia. Good luck to those who did purchase the Topps packs, I hope you do pull a mint card!

Nathaniel1960

I'm interested in the Howe, can you just give me a ballpark of what you are looking for? I read through this thread and my head is spinning. Thanks!