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2010 Additions- Future HOF Rookies- Senior Set POLL
JasP24
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Alright everyone. With the 2011 Senior Pro Football HOF candidates Chris Hanburger and Les Richter being announced last week, it's time for our own poll. To add or subtract any players from the current Future HOF Senior Set. Going to come at it a little different this year, and not only nominate the players who became newly eligible as senior candidates this year. But to also nominate who, IMO, are the top players at each position who are not already listed on the set. Anyone has the power to nominate a player for vote. So if you think someone else is deserving, by all means post there name, and I will add them to the ballot.
Any players with better than 50% of the votes here, I will request the player/card be added to the set. Will run the vote through next Sunday. Anyone can vote, although we would prefer it be those who have a vested interest and are actually collecting the set.
Here are the initial nominees:
New Seniors for 2011:
Cliff Branch, WR- 4 Pro Bowls, 3 first team All-Pro, 2-time modern Semi-finalist
Joe Theismann, QB- 2 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro
Matt Blair, OLB- 6 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro
My top candidate at each position not currently on the set:
QB-Daryle Lamonica- 5 Pro Bowls, 2 first team All-Pro (AFL player)
RB-Beattie Feathers-1 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1930s, 1-time prior Senior Candidate Finalist
WR-Harold Carmichael- 4 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1970s (2nd Team)
TE-Pete Retzlaff- 5 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro, 1-time Senior Semifinalist
OT-Winston Hill- 8 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro (AFL player)
OG-Dick Barwegan- 4 Pro Bowls, 4 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1950s (2nd Team)
OC-Jon Morris- 7 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro (AFL player)
DE- Ed Sprinkle- 4 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1940s, 1-time Senior Semifinalist
DT- Curley Culp- 6 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro
LB- Les Richter- 8 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro, Current Senior Finalist
CB- Bobby Dillon- 4 Pro Bowls, 4 first team All-Pro
S- Jimmy Patton- 5 Pro Bowls, 5 first team All-Pro
My votes to add:
Cliff Branch-1
Les Richter-1
My votes to subtract:
NONE
Any players with better than 50% of the votes here, I will request the player/card be added to the set. Will run the vote through next Sunday. Anyone can vote, although we would prefer it be those who have a vested interest and are actually collecting the set.
Here are the initial nominees:
New Seniors for 2011:
Cliff Branch, WR- 4 Pro Bowls, 3 first team All-Pro, 2-time modern Semi-finalist
Joe Theismann, QB- 2 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro
Matt Blair, OLB- 6 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro
My top candidate at each position not currently on the set:
QB-Daryle Lamonica- 5 Pro Bowls, 2 first team All-Pro (AFL player)
RB-Beattie Feathers-1 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1930s, 1-time prior Senior Candidate Finalist
WR-Harold Carmichael- 4 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1970s (2nd Team)
TE-Pete Retzlaff- 5 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro, 1-time Senior Semifinalist
OT-Winston Hill- 8 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro (AFL player)
OG-Dick Barwegan- 4 Pro Bowls, 4 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1950s (2nd Team)
OC-Jon Morris- 7 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro (AFL player)
DE- Ed Sprinkle- 4 Pro Bowls, 0 first team All-Pro, All-Decade Team 1940s, 1-time Senior Semifinalist
DT- Curley Culp- 6 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro
LB- Les Richter- 8 Pro Bowls, 1 first team All-Pro, Current Senior Finalist
CB- Bobby Dillon- 4 Pro Bowls, 4 first team All-Pro
S- Jimmy Patton- 5 Pro Bowls, 5 first team All-Pro
My votes to add:
Cliff Branch-1
Les Richter-1
My votes to subtract:
NONE
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Cliff Branch
Beattie Feathers
Winston Hill
Les Richter
Subtract:
Billy Wilson
Jack Butler
Jim Tyrer (while he should already be in the Hall, politics over the murder/suicide will NEVER allow for his enshrinement)
It's seems no matter who we want in the set, they always come up with a player no one expects or that we've ever discussed. ie..Lebeau last year, Richter this year..
Dave
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according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>
Billy Wilson
Jack Butler
Jim Tyrer (while he should already be in the Hall, politics over the murder/suicide will NEVER allow for his enshrinement) >>
I don't disagree with you on Tyrer, other than to say "Never say never"..lol..As the voters change and new guys rotate in, you never know when someone gets a wild hair and decides to push for his election.
Wilson had steadily been in the Top 15-17 semi-finalists for a few years, but hasn't for the past 2 years. Butler is a guy in the Richter type category. There are still a large contingent of old timers who clamor for his election. For the most part, it seems that the senior voters are targeting specific franchises, and then finding the best candidate from that franchise. This year, it was the Rams. Last year the Broncos. Next year, who knows. The senior set is a crap shoot in many ways, but at least we can have our own say on who WE think belongs on the set and belongs in the HOF. Can't predict what the voters will do, but either way, this set includes a very nice selection of GREAT rookie cards.
Jason
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Dick Barwegan
4-time Pro Bowler & 4-time First-Team All-Pro
Gene Brito
5-time Pro Bowler & 3-time First-Team All-Pro
Jim Ray Smith
5-time Pro Bowler & 3-time First-Team All-Pro
Roger Brown
6-time Pro Bowler & 2-time First-Team All-Pro
Dick Schafrath
6-time Pro Bowler & 4-time First-Team All-Pro
Walt Sweeney
9-time Pro Bowler & 2-time First-Team All-Pro
<< <i>I will abstain from voting as I don't know enough about the players to make an educated guess.
It's seems no matter who we want in the set, they always come up with a player no one expects or that we've ever discussed. ie..Lebeau last year, Richter this year..
Dave >>
I have to take Dave's stance as well. There is no logic that is used for the Sr Nominations at all. The fact that they come up with players we have never discussed seems to make the point of having this set debatable. I would say this for any of the future HOF sets. I am just going to stick to the main sets from now on.
Collecting:
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Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Most of the last several picks have all missed this set entirely.
However I am a big Hanburger fan.
I am far from an expert but I'll go with C Branch just because he's newly eligable and the most outstanding Raider not on the list.
I'l pass on everyone else. The set is way to large for just 2 possible elections/year.
The 2 new senior nominees will either be included on the RC HOF set soon or not. If they don't make it
with so many other deserving guys I doubt they would get a 2nd chance.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>I'll Third that idea.
Most of the last several picks have all missed this set entirely.
However I am a big Hanburger fan.
I am far from an expert but I'll go with C Branch just because he's newly eligable and the most outstanding Raider not on the list.
I'l pass on everyone else. The set is way to large for just 2 possible elections/year.
The 2 new senior nominees will either be included on the RC HOF set soon or not. If they don't make it
with so many other deserving guys I doubt they would get a 2nd chance. >>
well this is what i was trying to say but you said it best.
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Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's
Rgs,
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Votes to add:
Cliff Branch-6
Les Richter-4
Beattie Feathers-1
Winston Hill-1
Votes to subtract:
Billy Wilson-1
Jack Butler-1
Jim Tyrer-1
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>
<< <i>I'll Third that idea.
Most of the last several picks have all missed this set entirely.
However I am a big Hanburger fan.
I am far from an expert but I'll go with C Branch just because he's newly eligable and the most outstanding Raider not on the list.
I'l pass on everyone else. The set is way to large for just 2 possible elections/year.
The 2 new senior nominees will either be included on the RC HOF set soon or not. If they don't make it
with so many other deserving guys I doubt they would get a 2nd chance. >>
well this is what i was trying to say but you said it best. >>
The set certainly isn't for everyone. No set is. But for the 24 collectors of the set, it is a way for us to vote for and elect the players to this set that WE think are HOF worthy. Plenty of top notch rookies in the set, and as a nice aside, it feeds the HOF RC set. So if/when Hanburger gets elected this year, his rookie card will come off this set and be added directly to the HOF RC set.
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>I'm going to give the linemen some love with my nominations. All have solid credentials IMO.
Dick Barwegan
4-time Pro Bowler & 4-time First-Team All-Pro
Gene Brito
5-time Pro Bowler & 3-time First-Team All-Pro
Jim Ray Smith
5-time Pro Bowler & 3-time First-Team All-Pro
Roger Brown
6-time Pro Bowler & 2-time First-Team All-Pro
Dick Schafrath
6-time Pro Bowler & 4-time First-Team All-Pro
Walt Sweeney
9-time Pro Bowler & 2-time First-Team All-Pro >>
Tom, do you want to vote for any or all of these nominations to be added to the set?
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Yes, I'm voting for them all.
Tom
Votes to add:
Cliff Branch-7
Les Richter-4
Beattie Feathers-1
Winston Hill-1
Dick Barwegan-1
Gene Brito-1
Jim Ray Smith-1
Roger Brown-1
Dick Schafrath-1
Walt Sweeney-1
Votes to subtract:
Billy Wilson-1
Jack Butler-1
Jim Tyrer-1
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>Hi Jason,
Yes, I'm voting for them all.
Tom >>
Sorry about that. When I first saw your post, I saw "Nominees" and thought you were just adding them to the list of candidates. Then I realized I never saw (in my mind) an actual vote from you, which is why I asked. Anyway, votes now added.
Thanks,
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>Alex Karras >>
Ummmm. He's already on the set.
Jason
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1975 Topps #524 Cliff Branch
PSA will then send out the official poll to all set participants. So if you voted for him here, be sure to respond to PSA's poll.
Thanks to all who voted.
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.