<< <i>First off, this is in no way a stab at the OP. Please don't take it as such, as it isn't intended in that way.
Having said that, I was just struck by how this kind of stuff (and there's a lot of it here and on other boards) really pales in comparison to the real world crap going on around us all. It's f***ing cardboard. A f***ing diversion. Supposed to be a f***ing hobby. Why in the f*** do we get so worked up by something so f***ing insignificant as pictures of men on paper?
* What should I do about being charged $3 shipping and receiving my card in a PWE? * I got an unreasonable offer on my overpriced card. What should I do? * I sent an offer on an overpriced card and got put on the SOB's block list. What should I do? * I got a negative from an unreasonable pr*ck of a buyer. What should I do? * blah blah blah f***ing blah
So sick of it.
/rant >>
The curious part of it isn't that we get worked up over it; I get worked up over some very, very small details through the course of a given day, and I'm sure I'm not alone on that score. What's curious is that someone would feel compelled to share the experience, as if there's anything in it that a third party would find informative.
If I open the fridge today and a jar of ceasar salad dressing falls out and breaks all over the floor, I'm going to get fired up. But I'm not going to run to my computer and post about the experience on a culinary message board.
<< <i>First off, this is in no way a stab at the OP. Please don't take it as such, as it isn't intended in that way.
Having said that, I was just struck by how this kind of stuff (and there's a lot of it here and on other boards) really pales in comparison to the real world crap going on around us all. It's f***ing cardboard. A f***ing diversion. Supposed to be a f***ing hobby. Why in the f*** do we get so worked up by something so f***ing insignificant as pictures of men on paper?
* What should I do about being charged $3 shipping and receiving my card in a PWE? * I got an unreasonable offer on my overpriced card. What should I do? * I sent an offer on an overpriced card and got put on the SOB's block list. What should I do? * I got a negative from an unreasonable pr*ck of a buyer. What should I do? * blah blah blah f***ing blah
So sick of it.
/rant >>
The curious part of it isn't that we get worked up over it; I get worked up over some very, very small details through the course of a given day, and I'm sure I'm not alone on that score. What's curious is that someone would feel compelled to share the experience, as if there's anything in it that a third party would find informative.
If I open the fridge today and a jar of ceasar salad dressing falls out and breaks all over the floor, I'm going to get fired up. But I'm not going to run to my computer and post about the experience on a culinary message board. >>
This made me laugh, but seriously, it's something most of us should consider before posting -- myself included.
<< <i>First off, this is in no way a stab at the OP. Please don't take it as such, as it isn't intended in that way.
Having said that, I was just struck by how this kind of stuff (and there's a lot of it here and on other boards) really pales in comparison to the real world crap going on around us all. It's f***ing cardboard. A f***ing diversion. Supposed to be a f***ing hobby. Why in the f*** do we get so worked up by something so f***ing insignificant as pictures of men on paper?
* What should I do about being charged $3 shipping and receiving my card in a PWE? * I got an unreasonable offer on my overpriced card. What should I do? * I sent an offer on an overpriced card and got put on the SOB's block list. What should I do? * I got a negative from an unreasonable pr*ck of a buyer. What should I do? * blah blah blah f***ing blah
So sick of it.
/rant >>
I even found myself getting sucked into it. I posted a stupid thread because a low ball offer which worked itself out within 24 hours. Which I regret posting.
Life is to short to be getting all upset about pictures of men on cardboard.
PS: I wish I wasn't here in NC I really miss NYC/NJ
<< <i>If I open the fridge today and a jar of ceasar salad dressing falls out and breaks all over the floor, I'm going to get fired up. But I'm not going to run to my computer and post about the experience on a culinary message board. >>
Hehe, you would if it was in a non breakable plastic jar.
<< <i>otwcards---go pound sand. And take your preachin pulpit to some other thread. This will be my last comment on this particular thread. Now time to go watch some NFL Football. Enjoy the the rest of the day folks. >>
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
I really thought you could come up with something a little more imaginative.
You're a class act!
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!! I gave a buyer a hard time because he asked me a question and I want everyone on the boards to see how much of a hardazz I am.
Spend your $12 and go buy yourself a clue, sport! >>
Well i have to reply to Scott---
Scott at least quote me correctly. I e-mailed him nicely twice to his replies that i would offer a full refund for the card--sight unseen. I never gave him a hard time.He also left positive feedback on the other card if you even bothered to read my positives. You can read,can't you? I don't want to presume anything. I don't need to impress you or anyone else here on the boards. You're not worthy of my imagination. If he goes to ebay--they will ask me to refund card and then we are right back to what i e-mailed him from the git go. Do you really i am going get the card back--send it to PSA for recapsulation--then send it back to the customer again?? Then i want some of the stuff you are smokin over there. >>
So, you're challenging my comprehension skills, and then suggest that I said you should have the buyer send the card back so you could re-encapsulate the card and send it back to the buyer? You are confused, aren't you. Please show me where I said that.
Read what I wrote. Stop trying to justify and just read what I wrote. Stop trying to insist that you're right and just read what I wrote. Do you get it? Read what I wrote.
Every time I've quoted you, I've cut and pasted YOUR EXACT words (tough to misquote when you do that). I stated that, regardless of what your intentions with the buyer were, that your tone towards the buyer's concern were not warranted, especially over such a trivial transaction. In fact, I even offered to cover the expense of the auction.
Whether you agree with me or not is not the issue, but your tone demonstrates that you have little tolerance and patience and a complete disregard for what anyone else may think or feel. While I can be a little rough around the edges and jump on people over somewhat petty issues, I take my business transactions seriously and do what is right, just not what is required. I get very annoyed when buyers AND sellers try to use the gray area of a transaction to their advantage with ZERO consideration for the other side, hence the reason that I asked you to block me and have blocked you from my auctions.
By the letter of the law, you are right. You offered a refund . . . twice. But the little blurb that you tried to use as an escape clause ("I do not not assume responsibility for lost or damaged uninsured items") is where I had an issue and pointed it out and is probably what caused the buyer to make his closing statement. Amazingly, you have failed to address that point, instead opting to call me names and chastise me for being on some sort of "preachin pulpit."
Again, buy a clue and enjoy the hobby, Sport... >>
What names did i call you "exactly"....besides "Scott"....Sport?? Who made you judge and jury of my tone? So let me quote you---"I take my business transactions seriously and do what is right, just not what is required." So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay.
Let me get this straight...is otwcards actually the buyer here??
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>What names did i call you "exactly"....besides "Scott"....Sport?? Who made you judge and jury of my tone? So let me quote you---"I take my business transactions seriously and do what is right, just not what is required." So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay. >>
You really don't get it, do you? Go back and read what YOU wrote since you've ignored my request to read what I wrote. You've disregarded my questions and side stepped the points that I made and that's fine because the answers are really quite rhetorical.
No one made me "judge and jury" of your tone. It's my opinion considering that you called the buyer/customer a " moron," as well as calling me a "twit" and have refused to acknowledge some of the other things you've said. You blew a gasket when the buyer mocked your professionalism and suggested he was going to let eBay handle it. And you belittle him as it was a $12 transaction (lost on you is the fact that you've wasted so much bandwidth on this silly $12 which I offered to pay initially). After the buyer files, the end result will still be a refund after the mail it back BS and you will claim victory and call him an idiot since you offered a refund TWICE. But when all is said and done, what did you gain? You pissed off a buyer, you've lost a few other potential buyers that have read this thread and gained what? The satisfaction of being an ebay and Internet hardazz? Congratulations!!! You win and to the victor go the spoils...
<< <i>So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay. >>
Now, to specifically answer your question:
I stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
Either:
a) You're too stubborn to accept that I wrote it. b) You're too ignorant to understand it. c) You're too lazy to remember that I wrote it.
I wouldn't take the buyer's word. I would ask for a scan and then act accordingly in the best interest of my business and if it were damaged and I hadn't insured it, I would issue a refund and tell him to keep the card as it is only $12. See, I understand that the burden of delivery falls on me and I would not try to duck that responsibility by quoting some arbitrary line that I included in the auction that tries, unsuccessfully, to remove me from that obligation.
BTW, I withdraw my offer to reimburse you for your loss. Your tone and hostility should not be rewarded. Hopefully, this answers YOUR question(s).
<< <i>So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay. >>
Now, to specifically answer your question:
I stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
Either:
a) You're too stubborn to accept that I wrote it. b) You're too ignorant to understand it. c) You're too lazy to remember that I wrote it.
I wouldn't take the buyer's word. I would ask for a scan and then act accordingly in the best interest of my business and if it were damaged and I hadn't insured it, I would issue a refund and tell him to keep the card as it is only $12. See, I understand that the burden of delivery falls on me and I would not try to duck that responsibility by quoting some arbitrary line that I included in the auction that tries, unsuccessfully, to remove me from that obligation.
BTW, I withdraw my offer to reimburse you for your loss. Your tone and hostility should not be rewarded. Hopefully, this answers YOUR question(s). >>
Your quote again----
" stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
I did this twice Scott--- And your withdrawal to now cancel the refund..just lost me as a customer....You have not this resolved the issue with the customer Scott. You just made him angry. BTW, i have yet to hear anything from Paypal or Ebay,which is besides the point. I don't have to worry about believing my customers or not Scott( which kind of null and voids your original statement). I advised him that i would refund "sight unseen" the same day i received the card back. He was not satisifed either way. he wanted it re-incapsulated. So your way of handling it was offer the refund twice and then re-neg the 3rd time. Real classy!! My offer still stands with this ebayer for a full refund. I'll take my business practice over yours..thank you. I think my positives speak for themselves including my repeat customers from here as well as Ebay.
I agree with Scott. If it were me I would just refund the money and tell him keep the card (after I received a scan of the cracked case). I would rather be out $12 than to lose a potential customer.
Chris My small collection Want List: '61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7 Cardinal T206 cards Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
<< <i> But if the customer is telling the truth he could pottentially be a great customer in the future. The scan would tell you whether or not he's legit. >>
In my opinion, needy greedy people will never be a good customer.
<< <i> But if the customer is telling the truth he could pottentially be a great customer in the future. The scan would tell you whether or not he's legit. >>
In my opinion, needy greedy people will never be a good customer. >>
I agree. But how is he needy/greedy if he's telling the truth?
Chris My small collection Want List: '61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7 Cardinal T206 cards Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
This is a very strange thread. You started this thread for what reason? To get opinions? a rant? People posted their opinions and you clearly did what you wanted anyway. Why even post. I will give you my opinion.
Give the guy $5.00 and block him and move on. The customers you are losing are not just the buyer but the people reading this thread.
<< <i> I agree. But how is he needy/greedy if he's telling the truth? >>
I was going on the assumption that he was telling the truth actually. He wants to keep the card and get $5 bucks back??? That just seems needy greedy and really petty to me. Mind you I do understand that $5 bucks is alot of money to some people, and my advice to them is to stop buying graded sportscards and think about how they're going to pay for their next meal.
<< <i>This is a very strange thread. You started this thread for what reason? To get opinions? a rant? People posted their opinions and you clearly did what you wanted anyway. Why even post. I will give you my opinion.
Give the guy $5.00 and block him and move on. The customers you are losing are not just the buyer but the people reading this thread.
Just move on.
Dave >>
Maybe you didn't read all the opinions posted, or maybe you think your opinion is more important than other people's. Which is it?
The OP/seller has offered a full refund twice. I personally wouldn't hesitate to bid on his items.
" stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
I did this twice Scott--- And your withdrawal to now cancel the refund..just lost me as a customer....You have not this resolved the issue with the customer Scott. You just made him angry. BTW, i have yet to hear anything from Paypal or Ebay,which is besides the point. I don't have to worry about believing my customers or not Scott( which kind of null and voids your original statement). I advised him that i would refund "sight unseen" the same day i received the card back. He was not satisifed either way. he wanted it re-incapsulated. So your way of handling it was offer the refund twice and then re-neg the 3rd time. Real classy!! My offer still stands with this ebayer for a full refund. I'll take my business practice over yours..thank you. I think my positives speak for themselves including my repeat customers from here as well as Ebay. >>
How did I cost you a customer?
How did I make the customer angry?
Are you really this comprehensionally challenged?
There's nothing special about offering a "refund 'sight unseen' the same day i received the card back." I said to ask for a scan and if the card was damaged, just issue a full refund (at least that's how I would handle it). You obviously either CAN'T read what I wrote or prefer to believe that I wrote something else.
If the card was damaged during shipping and the buyer wants to have it re-encapsulated, what difference would it make if you gave him a full refund and told him to keep the card other than win over the customer? What part of this DON'T you understand?
Now, help me understand what this means, "So your way of handling it was offer the refund twice and then re-neg the 3rd time. Real classy!!" The only person I "renegged" on was my offer to reimburse you in my initial thread. It had NOTHING to do with your customer or how you handled it, I offered to give YOU the $12 if you refunded the customer had he provided a scan of the card being damaged. Amazing that I tried to help you with your customer and you don't understand it. No wonder you're having issues, you can't read and comprehend simple sentences...
Actually I did read the part that the seller offered a full refund. That should/could have ended everything. I dont fault Carew for that. I just dont think the following rant has helped his bid to gain support.
Ebay is what it is. Good or bad, we really dont have many places to buy and sell anymore. Or atleast I dont. I think at the end of the day if $5 bucks is all you are out you did well. It sucks.
I should be honest, when it comes to ebay I'm a chicken. And I probably would have just sent the guy $5 just so I wouldn't have to deal with it any longer than it would take to do that.
Wow... I don't know which of these things is more pathetic:
-all the hassle and whining over a stupid $12 POS card deal. -a whizzing contest between 2 posters, one of whom isn't even involved in the deal, over a stupid $12 POS card deal. -the fact that I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading and responding to a thread about a stupid $12 POS card deal.
But, since I've already wasted my time...might as well chime in. Give him his $12, tell him to keep the effing card, block him, encourage fellow sellers to do likewise, and get on with your life.
This is just another reason why I don't deal in cards... coins/currency are hassle enough at times without having to deal with yet another group of childlike adults...
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<< <i>First off, this is in no way a stab at the OP. Please don't take it as such, as it isn't intended in that way.
Having said that, I was just struck by how this kind of stuff (and there's a lot of it here and on other boards) really pales in comparison to the real world crap going on around us all. It's f***ing cardboard. A f***ing diversion. Supposed to be a f***ing hobby. Why in the f*** do we get so worked up by something so f***ing insignificant as pictures of men on paper?
* What should I do about being charged $3 shipping and receiving my card in a PWE?
* I got an unreasonable offer on my overpriced card. What should I do?
* I sent an offer on an overpriced card and got put on the SOB's block list. What should I do?
* I got a negative from an unreasonable pr*ck of a buyer. What should I do?
* blah blah blah f***ing blah
So sick of it.
/rant >>
The curious part of it isn't that we get worked up over it; I get worked up over some very, very small details through the course of a given day, and I'm sure I'm not alone on that score. What's curious is that someone would feel compelled to share the experience, as if there's anything in it that a third party would find informative.
If I open the fridge today and a jar of ceasar salad dressing falls out and breaks all over the floor, I'm going to get fired up. But I'm not going to run to my computer and post about the experience on a culinary message board.
<< <i>I never get sick of it, where else could I get such cheap laughs?
Guys going ballistic over 5.00
Guys go ballistic over postage of 3.50 when only 2.39 was used.
Guys......I think you get my point.
Keep it coming guys.
Steve >>
Then again, Mets fans are easily amused.
<< <i>
<< <i>First off, this is in no way a stab at the OP. Please don't take it as such, as it isn't intended in that way.
Having said that, I was just struck by how this kind of stuff (and there's a lot of it here and on other boards) really pales in comparison to the real world crap going on around us all. It's f***ing cardboard. A f***ing diversion. Supposed to be a f***ing hobby. Why in the f*** do we get so worked up by something so f***ing insignificant as pictures of men on paper?
* What should I do about being charged $3 shipping and receiving my card in a PWE?
* I got an unreasonable offer on my overpriced card. What should I do?
* I sent an offer on an overpriced card and got put on the SOB's block list. What should I do?
* I got a negative from an unreasonable pr*ck of a buyer. What should I do?
* blah blah blah f***ing blah
So sick of it.
/rant >>
The curious part of it isn't that we get worked up over it; I get worked up over some very, very small details through the course of a given day, and I'm sure I'm not alone on that score. What's curious is that someone would feel compelled to share the experience, as if there's anything in it that a third party would find informative.
If I open the fridge today and a jar of ceasar salad dressing falls out and breaks all over the floor, I'm going to get fired up. But I'm not going to run to my computer and post about the experience on a culinary message board. >>
This made me laugh, but seriously, it's something most of us should consider before posting -- myself included.
<< <i>First off, this is in no way a stab at the OP. Please don't take it as such, as it isn't intended in that way.
Having said that, I was just struck by how this kind of stuff (and there's a lot of it here and on other boards) really pales in comparison to the real world crap going on around us all. It's f***ing cardboard. A f***ing diversion. Supposed to be a f***ing hobby. Why in the f*** do we get so worked up by something so f***ing insignificant as pictures of men on paper?
* What should I do about being charged $3 shipping and receiving my card in a PWE?
* I got an unreasonable offer on my overpriced card. What should I do?
* I sent an offer on an overpriced card and got put on the SOB's block list. What should I do?
* I got a negative from an unreasonable pr*ck of a buyer. What should I do?
* blah blah blah f***ing blah
So sick of it.
/rant >>
I even found myself getting sucked into it. I posted a stupid thread because a low ball offer which worked itself out within 24 hours. Which I regret posting.
Life is to short to be getting all upset about pictures of men on cardboard.
PS: I wish I wasn't here in NC I really miss NYC/NJ
<< <i>
PS: I wish I wasn't here in NC I really miss NYC/NJ >>
Why?
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Ralph
<< <i>If I open the fridge today and a jar of ceasar salad dressing falls out and breaks all over the floor, I'm going to get fired up. But I'm not going to run to my computer and post about the experience on a culinary message board. >>
Hehe, you would if it was in a non breakable plastic jar.
Steve
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<< <i>otwcards---go pound sand. And take your preachin pulpit to some other thread. This will be my last comment on this particular thread. Now time to go watch some NFL Football. Enjoy the the rest of the day folks. >>
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
I really thought you could come up with something a little more imaginative.
You're a class act!
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!! I gave a buyer a hard time because he asked me a question and I want everyone on the boards to see how much of a hardazz I am.
Spend your $12 and go buy yourself a clue, sport! >>
Well i have to reply to Scott---
Scott at least quote me correctly. I e-mailed him nicely twice to his replies that i would offer a full refund for the card--sight unseen. I never gave him a hard time.He also left positive feedback on the other card if you even bothered to read my positives. You can read,can't you? I don't want to presume anything. I don't need to impress you or anyone else here on the boards. You're not worthy of my imagination. If he goes to ebay--they will ask me to refund card and then we are right back to what i e-mailed him from the git go. Do you really i am going get the card back--send it to PSA for recapsulation--then send it back to the customer again?? Then i want some of the stuff you are smokin over there. >>
So, you're challenging my comprehension skills, and then suggest that I said you should have the buyer send the card back so you could re-encapsulate the card and send it back to the buyer? You are confused, aren't you. Please show me where I said that.
Read what I wrote. Stop trying to justify and just read what I wrote. Stop trying to insist that you're right and just read what I wrote. Do you get it? Read what I wrote.
Every time I've quoted you, I've cut and pasted YOUR EXACT words (tough to misquote when you do that). I stated that, regardless of what your intentions with the buyer were, that your tone towards the buyer's concern were not warranted, especially over such a trivial transaction. In fact, I even offered to cover the expense of the auction.
Whether you agree with me or not is not the issue, but your tone demonstrates that you have little tolerance and patience and a complete disregard for what anyone else may think or feel. While I can be a little rough around the edges and jump on people over somewhat petty issues, I take my business transactions seriously and do what is right, just not what is required. I get very annoyed when buyers AND sellers try to use the gray area of a transaction to their advantage with ZERO consideration for the other side, hence the reason that I asked you to block me and have blocked you from my auctions.
By the letter of the law, you are right. You offered a refund . . . twice. But the little blurb that you tried to use as an escape clause ("I do not not assume responsibility for lost or damaged uninsured items") is where I had an issue and pointed it out and is probably what caused the buyer to make his closing statement. Amazingly, you have failed to address that point, instead opting to call me names and chastise me for being on some sort of "preachin pulpit."
Again, buy a clue and enjoy the hobby, Sport... >>
What names did i call you "exactly"....besides "Scott"....Sport?? Who made you judge and jury of my tone? So let me quote you---"I take my business transactions seriously and do what is right, just not what is required." So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>What names did i call you "exactly"....besides "Scott"....Sport?? Who made you judge and jury of my tone? So let me quote you---"I take my business transactions seriously and do what is right, just not what is required." So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay. >>
You really don't get it, do you? Go back and read what YOU wrote since you've ignored my request to read what I wrote. You've disregarded my questions and side stepped the points that I made and that's fine because the answers are really quite rhetorical.
No one made me "judge and jury" of your tone. It's my opinion considering that you called the buyer/customer a "
<< <i>Let me get this straight...is otwcards actually the buyer here?? >>
No, I'm not the buyer.
Be good my brothers.
<< <i>So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay. >>
Now, to specifically answer your question:
I stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
Either:
a) You're too stubborn to accept that I wrote it.
b) You're too ignorant to understand it.
c) You're too lazy to remember that I wrote it.
I wouldn't take the buyer's word. I would ask for a scan and then act accordingly in the best interest of my business and if it were damaged and I hadn't insured it, I would issue a refund and tell him to keep the card as it is only $12. See, I understand that the burden of delivery falls on me and I would not try to duck that responsibility by quoting some arbitrary line that I included in the auction that tries, unsuccessfully, to remove me from that obligation.
BTW, I withdraw my offer to reimburse you for your loss. Your tone and hostility should not be rewarded. Hopefully, this answers YOUR question(s).
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<< <i>So if i received a cracked case from you Scott, and ( i want you to make it right)-(my customer's own words to me).... And you (Scott) have offered already twice to refund me in full sight unseen-including shipping for the card...I await your response before I take it up with ebay. >>
Now, to specifically answer your question:
I stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
Either:
a) You're too stubborn to accept that I wrote it.
b) You're too ignorant to understand it.
c) You're too lazy to remember that I wrote it.
I wouldn't take the buyer's word. I would ask for a scan and then act accordingly in the best interest of my business and if it were damaged and I hadn't insured it, I would issue a refund and tell him to keep the card as it is only $12. See, I understand that the burden of delivery falls on me and I would not try to duck that responsibility by quoting some arbitrary line that I included in the auction that tries, unsuccessfully, to remove me from that obligation.
BTW, I withdraw my offer to reimburse you for your loss. Your tone and hostility should not be rewarded. Hopefully, this answers YOUR question(s). >>
Your quote again----
" stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
I did this twice Scott--- And your withdrawal to now cancel the refund..just lost me as a customer....You have not this resolved the issue with the customer Scott. You just made him angry. BTW, i have yet to hear anything from Paypal or Ebay,which is besides the point. I don't have to worry about believing my customers or not Scott( which kind of null and voids your original statement). I advised him that i would refund "sight unseen" the same day i received the card back. He was not satisifed either way. he wanted it re-incapsulated. So your way of handling it was offer the refund twice and then re-neg the 3rd time. Real classy!! My offer still stands with this ebayer for a full refund. I'll take my business practice over yours..thank you. I think my positives speak for themselves including my repeat customers from here as well as Ebay.
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<< <i>......I would rather be out $12 than to lose a potential customer....... >>
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I would NOT pay 12-cents for a THOUSAND "customers" like
the one that is the subject of this thread.
Different Strokes......
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<< <i>......I would rather be out $12 than to lose a potential customer....... >>
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I would NOT pay 12-cents for a THOUSAND "customers" like
the one that is the subject of this thread.
Different Strokes......
But if the customer is telling the truth he could pottentially be a great customer in the future. The scan would tell you whether or not he's legit.
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But if the customer is telling the truth he could pottentially be a great customer in the future. The scan would tell you whether or not he's legit. >>
In my opinion, needy greedy people will never be a good customer.
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But if the customer is telling the truth he could pottentially be a great customer in the future. The scan would tell you whether or not he's legit. >>
In my opinion, needy greedy people will never be a good customer. >>
I agree. But how is he needy/greedy if he's telling the truth?
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Give the guy $5.00 and block him and move on. The customers you are losing are not just the buyer but the people reading this thread.
Just move on.
Dave
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I agree. But how is he needy/greedy if he's telling the truth? >>
I was going on the assumption that he was telling the truth actually. He wants to keep the card and get $5 bucks back??? That just seems needy greedy and really petty to me. Mind you I do understand that $5 bucks is alot of money to some people, and my advice to them is to stop buying graded sportscards and think about how they're going to pay for their next meal.
edit fer spellin
<< <i>This is a very strange thread. You started this thread for what reason? To get opinions? a rant? People posted their opinions and you clearly did what you wanted anyway. Why even post. I will give you my opinion.
Give the guy $5.00 and block him and move on. The customers you are losing are not just the buyer but the people reading this thread.
Just move on.
Dave >>
Maybe you didn't read all the opinions posted, or maybe you think your opinion is more important than other people's. Which is it?
The OP/seller has offered a full refund twice. I personally wouldn't hesitate to bid on his items.
Steve
lol yeah, I was wondering the same, what was the purpose of this thread?
Steve
<< <i>I knew this one had possibilities.
Steve >>
You cant make this stuff up.
I'm still buckin for a DBOTW nomination, ya bunch of panzies.
<< <i>Your quote again----
" stated in my initial response in this thread, the following: "In fact, how about this: Ask for the scan, and if it is damaged, refund the buyer, tell him to keep the card and I will PayPal Gift you $12 to cover your "loss." Perhaps you can take this as a lesson in better your business practices and customer relations..."
I did this twice Scott--- And your withdrawal to now cancel the refund..just lost me as a customer....You have not this resolved the issue with the customer Scott. You just made him angry. BTW, i have yet to hear anything from Paypal or Ebay,which is besides the point. I don't have to worry about believing my customers or not Scott( which kind of null and voids your original statement). I advised him that i would refund "sight unseen" the same day i received the card back. He was not satisifed either way. he wanted it re-incapsulated. So your way of handling it was offer the refund twice and then re-neg the 3rd time. Real classy!! My offer still stands with this ebayer for a full refund. I'll take my business practice over yours..thank you. I think my positives speak for themselves including my repeat customers from here as well as Ebay. >>
How did I cost you a customer?
How did I make the customer angry?
Are you really this comprehensionally challenged?
There's nothing special about offering a "refund 'sight unseen' the same day i received the card back." I said to ask for a scan and if the card was damaged, just issue a full refund (at least that's how I would handle it). You obviously either CAN'T read what I wrote or prefer to believe that I wrote something else.
If the card was damaged during shipping and the buyer wants to have it re-encapsulated, what difference would it make if you gave him a full refund and told him to keep the card other than win over the customer? What part of this DON'T you understand?
Now, help me understand what this means, "So your way of handling it was offer the refund twice and then re-neg the 3rd time. Real classy!!" The only person I "renegged" on was my offer to reimburse you in my initial thread. It had NOTHING to do with your customer or how you handled it, I offered to give YOU the $12 if you refunded the customer had he provided a scan of the card being damaged. Amazing that I tried to help you with your customer and you don't understand it. No wonder you're having issues, you can't read and comprehend simple sentences...
But I like these threads so I can act appaled and enraged about nothing at all, heh heh.
Let the good times roll.
Steve
Steve
<< <i>I'm going to go and jump in my new hot tub.
Steve >>
Don't forget the toaster, old man...
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<< <i>I'm going to go and jump in my new hot tub.
Steve >>
Don't forget the toaster, old man... >>
Ebay is what it is. Good or bad, we really dont have many places to buy and sell anymore. Or atleast I dont. I think at the end of the day if $5 bucks is all you are out you did well. It sucks.
Nightcrawler,
I never said I was right. Just my .02.
Dave
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Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
I should be honest, when it comes to ebay I'm a chicken. And I probably would have just sent the guy $5 just so I wouldn't have to deal with it any longer than it would take to do that.
<< <i>Don't forget the toaster, old man... >>
Damn you guys are brutal.
Steve
<< <i>I'm just feeling douchey today. >>
Hey, ya got my vote.
Steve
-all the hassle and whining over a stupid $12 POS card deal.
-a whizzing contest between 2 posters, one of whom isn't even involved in the deal, over a stupid $12 POS card deal.
-the fact that I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading and responding to a thread about a stupid $12 POS card deal.
But, since I've already wasted my time...might as well chime in.
Give him his $12, tell him to keep the effing card, block him, encourage fellow sellers to do likewise, and get on with your life.
This is just another reason why I don't deal in cards... coins/currency are hassle enough at times without having to deal with yet another group of childlike adults...
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<< <i>I'm going to go and jump in my new hot tub.
Steve >>
Don't forget the toaster, old man... >>
And don't forget to plug it in.
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