Crack out or leave it alone, what would you do if you were me?
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As you know I like 1950-70 Cameo proofs.
I picked up an NGS PF69 CAM 1957 dime at a B&M a while back. It set me back a whopping $15.00
It has two sided, thick creamy white frost and deep black mirrors. It would be a very attractive coin except for the fact that it has developed milky white haze and yellow blotches on the obverse. Absent the haze and blotches the coin would stay where it is at. The haze and blotches make my hands itch with a desire to crack out the coin.
The haze and blotches are the type that would come off with a bath. A stunning raw coin would be the result of a crack out and bath. It would be an upgrade coin to my raw 1957 CAM proof set.
However an NGC PF69 CAM slab and grade would disappear and I have my doubts that it would regrade a PF69 CAM at either NGC or PCGS if resubmitted (how often is it today for NGC or PCGS to hand out a PF69 CAM grade for pre 1968 proofs?).
Is there a service tier at NGC that allows one to send in a slabbed coin like this to be "conserved" and reholdered at the same grade and designation?
What would you do in this situation, crack it out or leave it as is?
I picked up an NGS PF69 CAM 1957 dime at a B&M a while back. It set me back a whopping $15.00
It has two sided, thick creamy white frost and deep black mirrors. It would be a very attractive coin except for the fact that it has developed milky white haze and yellow blotches on the obverse. Absent the haze and blotches the coin would stay where it is at. The haze and blotches make my hands itch with a desire to crack out the coin.
The haze and blotches are the type that would come off with a bath. A stunning raw coin would be the result of a crack out and bath. It would be an upgrade coin to my raw 1957 CAM proof set.
However an NGC PF69 CAM slab and grade would disappear and I have my doubts that it would regrade a PF69 CAM at either NGC or PCGS if resubmitted (how often is it today for NGC or PCGS to hand out a PF69 CAM grade for pre 1968 proofs?).
Is there a service tier at NGC that allows one to send in a slabbed coin like this to be "conserved" and reholdered at the same grade and designation?
What would you do in this situation, crack it out or leave it as is?
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rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
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I was so hoping that this thread was about a 1933 Saint!
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I like that, even though no one has ever described me as "high powered" before
"successful attorney".
It depends on your perspective. Being in solo practice for 17 years, practicing for 28 years, raising a family in the SF Bay area while not having to work 12 hours + per day and 6-7 days per week is successful.
"Emotional girlie girl in agony over his obviously debilitating internal debate" is one heck of a moniker to be applied to moi
I do not feel any agony at the moment, and I do not think I am debilitated [even though I have not decided to crack out or leave the coin as is yet]. Maybe I should go see a counselor/therapist and get smoe guidance on this important issue
<< <i>No brainer: crack it, dip it, send it. >>
Not a good idea---too much risk. Call NGC and discuss with them the procedure to submit for a spot review. NCS is part of NGC and is in the same building as NGC. NCS can do a good job conserving your coin and you'll hopefully keep the grade.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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Well, I'm wondering which reactive ions are making a nest on the surface of your coin. Could it be chloride? Maybe, but the haze will eventually turn pink and then purple I suppose. Maybe it's sulfate, and that might be white. Or, it could possibly be nitrate, which could very well be the yellow blotches! If it's none of the above, what's left? Maybe some organic stew of vapors that will build up a layer and cause some electrolytic cell action underneath.
You could remove the contaminants now, or you could watch the damage as it happens over the next decade or so. I know what I'd do, especially since there's a cameo proof with black fields underneath. Maybe I wouldn't do it, but I'd sure consider having someone who knows what they are doing take a whack at it.
I knew it would happen.
The dime still looks CAM on both sides to me, but NGC's opinion is different from mine.
I am going to crack the coin out tonight and give it a bath. If it cleans up nicely it will use it as an upgrade coin for the dime currently sitting in my cameo 1957 proof set.
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<< <i>No brainer: crack it, dip it, send it. >>
Not a good idea---too much risk. Call NGC and discuss with them the procedure to submit for a spot review. NCS is part of NGC and is in the same building as NGC. NCS can do a good job conserving your coin and you'll hopefully keep the grade. >>