The Official George C Miller Collectors Thread....New Scans added!!!!
MrVintage
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This is the official collectors thread for the 1933 George C Miller baseball set. This is going to be a long and expensive project, but it will be a fun challenge. Here are the cards that I have so far. All 4 of these were picked up at the National in Baltimore.
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Are you only going after uncancelled ones? I think only a couple of examples of Andrews exist uncancelled, and to the best of my knowledge neither has surfaced in the last 10 years.
I'm about 2/3 of the way thru the set but taking whatever I can find, cancelled or uncancelled. Got some of the tough ones out of the way first but have bogged down since then.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Is the Ivy Andrews with the diamond punch hole cancellation worth more than the one that is cut at the bottom because there is more of the card present? Or is that a silly question by a silly collector?
Marc
Are you sitting on an Andrews that has been punch cancelled Marc?
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
<< <i>Are you sitting on an Andrews that has been punch cancelled Marc? >>
No, Anthony, not my style :-) You [generally] know most of the items in my collection. If anything, I've been paring down a lot over the past two years, more along the lines of the 25 Card theme -- but not so extreme. But most of my purchases are Phillies related in nature...! I was just curious from a learning perspective how the hobby treated Andrews cards in general.
Doesn't it seem a bit surprising that so many Andrews cards are cancelled? Clearly it was short-printed, but I'm surprised that the vast majority of existing samples seem to have been part of complete sets that were redeemed for the prize and then returned cancelled to the collector. Oh well, I digress-
Great cards Mr. Vintage -- always thought that this was a beautiful set!
Nice. Keep 'em coming.
Definitely a toughie to put together. I don't have an example of one, but hope to pick one up at some point.
Good luck with the rest of the set...Donato
Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set
Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
Mr Vintage it looks like you and I have to split a large lot so we can both get this one finished!
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Tried this set decades ago (Before the internet! Remember Teletrade?) And I eventually gave up. Good luck all!
Here's a link with basic info
GCM
The cards were issued with a redemption offer, and a deliberately short printed card (Ivy Andrews). Cancelled cards were either punch cancelled or cut cancelled.
Overall the cards are fairly scarce for a common issue- more so than Delongs or US Caramels. Uncancelled cards are considerably scarcer and more expensive than punch cancelled, which are more desireable than cut cancelled. It has been written that there are no more than 2 or 3 uncancelled versions of Andrews in existence, and none have been sold publicly in the last 10-15 years. A cancelled version generally runs in the $1k range.
There are 2 different printings of GCMs, distinguished by both the richness of the color on the front, and the spelling on the back. Type I's are brighter and have "Fox" listed on the back, the later printing of Type II's are duller and have the correct spelling of "Foxx" on the reverse. The few people that have a preference much prefer Type I's, myself included.
The full Cronin below is Type I, the cut cancelled Cronin is Type II.
Mr. Vintage- great pickups! How many does that make? You've got to be close.
The 2 I picked up on ebay were ok prices, not steals IMO. Pretty consistent with what I've been finding them for.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's