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orevilleoreville Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
I bought a HUGE amount of stuff at ANA Boston!

Item #1
Reputedly Ex-Eliasberg. BG=418 Low R-7. This rare mule is a combination of the obverse of BG-415 and the reverse of BG-417. Softly struck in the centers. Two in MS-64 none graded higher. Only 8 graded by PCGS in all grades and only 1 by NGC in all grades. The BG reference guide lists 13 with a few duplications.

This set me back $6325.00. Not outrageous considering the extreme rarity and that it is the highest known graded. The Eliasberg pedigree is something that needs to be investigated.

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Item #2

Heritage's description: Well-Preserved 1853 Liberty Round Half Dollar, BG-428, MS65 1853 50C Liberty Round 50 Cents, BG-428, R.3, MS65 PCGS. Small Liberty head, bust tip points to star, L in CALIFORNIA centered between the wreath ends. An available Period One variety, but rarely encountered in such lofty condition. The prooflike yellow-green surfaces have numerous mint-made striations, but are well preserved. Population: 1 in 65, 0 finer (4/09). (#10464)

My comment: I paid $4025.00. This piece sold for $4088.00 at Heritage on May 2, 2010 and also at Heritage for $2990.00 in November 8, 2003 in NEW YORK CITY during a FREAK SNOW STORM in which Robert Hughes and I must have been the only ones in attendance! Fortunately, he was NOT into fractional gold pieces! This must have been the last Heritage Signature sale in New York for US coins????


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More newps to follow.
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Comments

  • Nice, I also bought an Eliasberg coin last weekend.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet Toy! Congrats.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ManofCoins: Heritage had some doubt about the pedigree as stated in their lot description. I did some followup on it and their concerns needs to be followed up on. It is not a factor in my decision to purchase this fractional gold piece as they were not a core part of his holdings anyhow.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats - always fun to find something that tickles your fancy. image
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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    Who is this 'Eliasberg' guy?

    Nice coins

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  • << <i>Nice, I also bought an Eliasberg coin last weekend. >>



    Funny thing, I did too.



    1801 Cent
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,072 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very tiny, very sweet gold. Congrats. image
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Item #1
    Reputedly Ex-Eliasberg. BG=418 Low R-7. This rare mule is a combination of the obverse of BG-415 and the reverse of BG-417. Softly struck in the centers. Two in MS-64 none graded higher. Only 8 graded by PCGS in all grades and only 1 by NGC in all grades. The BG reference guide lists 13 with a few duplications.

    This set me back $6325.00. Not outrageous considering the extreme rarity and that it is the highest known graded. The Eliasberg pedigree is something that needs to be investigated.

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    Eliasberg's fractional gold was sold quite recently by Stack's (March 2010). There is a 418 so attributed as being from Eliasberg in that sale, and it does appear to match your coin.

    Edit: now that I've also looked at the Heritage catalog, the match between the two auctions is even more clear.
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what was the "secret" coin you were bidding on that you started telling me about?image
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Eliasberg's fractional gold was sold quite recently by Stack's (March 2010). There is a 418 so attributed as being from Eliasberg in that sale, and it does appear to match your coin. >>



    I was just going to say that.
  • Stavks March 2010 sale was Eliasberg Jr.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aegis/ColonialCoinUnion:

    Ok, here is the REAL SCOOP.

    Indeed I am aware of the recent sale at Stacks in March 2010 but read the lot description in that sale:



    << <i>Widely reeded edge. Frosty olive-gold with intense underlying lustre and satiny surfaces. Pleasing for the grade. A rare variety, with the Breen-Gillio reference listing 14 specimens of varied quality, at least one of which is holed, and the reference notes, "probably some duplication" in that list. The present specimen, long held in the Eliasberg Collection is not represented on the list. >>



    I am only curious as to why it was not on the B-G list. Was Gillio not aware of Eliasberg's piece?

    This is why I still call it reputedly and am suspicious that perhaps one of Eliasberg's son might have bought such piece after Louis passed away?

    Indeed, it would still be Eliasberg, but possibly a "SON OF ELIASBERG" pedigree??? image
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Stavks March 2010 sale was Eliasberg Jr. >>



    Yes, but the coins being offered were inherited from Sr., and thus are rightly Eliasberg coins.

    For example, we bought the 'Eliasberg' 1773 Virginia Penny in PF65 in that same Stack's auction, and I found a description of it in the "Inventory of the Eliasberg Collection, dated March 1951" (a document which was also in that same session and realized over $37K).

    That means that Louis Eliasberg, Sr. owned the Virginia Penny at the same time that he owned the rest of his colonials, but that some were sold by Bowers in 1996, and some by Stack's in March, 2010.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Colonialcoinunion:

    Perhaps I should have looked in that same list to see if that 1853 gold 50c was on the list?

    You think the new owner of that list would look it up for me? image

    Certainly that would be a question for QDB if Louis Jr. ever added any coins to Louis Sr.'s collection.
    That is the crux of my thought pattern.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    congratulations on the nice pick up image wtg
  • JustMakesCentsJustMakesCents Posts: 319 ✭✭✭
    What, no pictures of the VG-10 cent??? image

    Jeff
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VERY VERY cool pick ups. Major congrat's!!

    I did get to see the VG-10 Lincoln at the CRO table. Dave wanted to see if my head would explode. It almost did. (although at the time I didn't know it belonged to oreville)

    It was a pleasure to chat with the O'Ville on the boat ride later that night.................MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......

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