1837 25C Capped Bust......opinions on grade.....

SUMORADA

Thanks in advance, I bought this raw today in the shop.....

doh

very crusty VF30

Billet7

I give it a 20.

tjkillian

I'd only give it a F-15, but corroded.

Sorry, but i don't like it.

STONE

25

robkool

VF25...

Quarternut

VF-25 IMHO

And since no one else mentioned it...1837 B-4 LDS R-4 (for the DS), with the obverse bisecting die crack.

This is also the 6th & final use of this prolific reverse die. The die crack through D STATE developed on the first pairing with this reverse (1836 B-1) and stabilized throughout it's next use (1835-B-8), never advancing any further even when used to create the following die marriages: 1836 B-5, 1837 B-1, 1837 B-3 & 1837 B-4.

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PawPaul

F-15

Manorcourtman

15

SamByrd

fine 15

Moldnut

I think its a VF20 and maybe as high as VF25.

SUMORADA

And since no one else mentioned it...1837 B-4 LDS R-4 (for the DS), with the obverse bisecting die crack.

Steve,
Thank you for mentioning that, I bought this today and did look at your book but it got late and I ran out of time, thanks also for all of the grade opinions, in hand this coin just screams original "crud".....been there along time which to me makes it.......

I suck at grading period...and when it comes to things like this, I can only get an opinion from photos ...as in coinfacts, the lady I bought it from did not as most folks selling coins that were left to them, have a clue, I could have bought it for melt I'm sure..but not gonna happen, I do like to sleep at night...anyway I paid 85.00 for it and bought several other items..mostly face type silver Kennedy's.

291fifth

Seriously negative eye appeal - Genuine.

LanLord

<< <i>VF-25 IMHO

And since no one else mentioned it...1837 B-4 LDS R-4 (for the DS), with the obverse bisecting die crack.

This is also the 6th & final use of this prolific reverse die. The die crack through D STATE developed on the first pairing with this reverse (1836 B-1) and stabilized throughout it's next use (1835-B-8), never advancing any further even when used to create the following die marriages: 1836 B-5, 1837 B-1, 1837 B-3 & 1837 B-4.

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I need some clarification. How does a crack first develop the year after it stabilized? Am I missing something?

Quarternut

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<< <i>VF-25 IMHO

And since no one else mentioned it...1837 B-4 LDS R-4 (for the DS), with the obverse bisecting die crack.

This is also the 6th & final use of this prolific reverse die. The die crack through D STATE developed on the first pairing with this reverse (1836 B-1) and stabilized throughout it's next use (1835-B-8), never advancing any further even when used to create the following die marriages: 1836 B-5, 1837 B-1, 1837 B-3 & 1837 B-4.

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I need some clarification. How does a crack first develop the year after it stabilized? Am I missing something? >>



The reverse die was first used to create the 1836 B-1 die marriage, then it was next used to create the 1835 B-8 die marriage (actually struck in 1836 after the 1836 B-1). After it's use on the 1835 B-8, more 1836 B-1's were struck. It is actually what is termed as a die re-marriage.

The crack started on the 1836 B-1, then finally stopped and stabilized on the 1835 B-8. It remained stable and never advanced further from that point on even though it was used again on the 1836 B-5, 1837 B-1, 1837 B-3 & 1837 B-4 die marriages.

I hope that is clearer!

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