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1909/8 St. Gaudens $20 Gold coin

Please help grade and set a fair price for this coin,
I'm helping a friend sell this beauty.

I don't really know this series and how to grade it.


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Thanks in advance,
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like plenty of wear on the highpoints on both sides, so I'll say AU55.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks AU50 with all that wear.

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  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880


    I would advise you to send it in for a grade. It looks cleaned to me. It's definately not uncirculated, that's not a bad thing because it gets rather pricey in higher grades. You will get more money and a lot less grief if it is slabbed.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would advise you to send it in for a grade. It looks cleaned to me. It's definately not uncirculated, that's not a bad thing because it gets rather pricey in higher grades. You will get more money and a lot less grief if it is slabbed. >>

    I'll have to disagree about getting it graded. It looks obviously genuine, and there is barely any price spread between an AU50 and an AU58 for that date.
  • Thank You, all who have responded (and so fast!).

    The coin in-hand does look original, and I'm sure it
    saw a good amount of use in its day.

    With a mintage of 161,282 does it make this a rare coin
    in any condition?

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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Mintage of the 9/8 was somewhere between 32,000 and 65,000 based on die use. The coin is not particularly scarce except in gem BU condition.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭


    I just sold 5 of them at the Boston show.I sold two ms 60 coins for $1600 each and three ms 61 coins for $1,750 each. This coin looks AU and I would guess approximately $1,400.

    Stewart Blay
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's my PCGS AU55 (formerly NGC AU58) for comparison...

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    I would guess your coin is AU53-55 or so... like others have said, not much of a price difference between AU50, AU53, AU55 or even AU58... not until you get into an MS grade would it matter. Accordingly, I wouldn't certify it unless you have reason to think it's not genuine.

    Greysheet bid in XF40 is $1400, AU50 it is $1425 and in AU58 it is $1450. Based on that, you should have no trouble getting at least $1400 cash for it at pretty much any coin show you attend. But probably not much more than that. Good luck!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ironically, the normal 1909 Saint is scarcer than the 1909/8 overdate.

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  • 1201reset1201reset Posts: 187 ✭✭
    I really appreciate all the responses, again Thank You all.

    We shopped it around at the local Coin show today, the general
    consensus is that it's an AU 50 grade, with some offers for $1350.

    One dealer said it really depends on how motivated a buyer is
    to own this coin. He also recommended to have it graded,
    before making an offer for it. He seemed to think that he could
    broker a sale for it, he'll contact me during the week for further
    discussion.


    Perrhall wrote:
    "Ironically, the normal 1909 Saint is scarcer than the 1909/8 overdate. "

    That's very interesting, because my friend also has one of those he wants
    to part with.

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    Edit: Upon further review, the 1909 is actually a 1909 S,
    my lack of experience is showing.

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