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Question, value, on Eritrea coins

ajaanajaan Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Reference KM#4 pg 283 in Krause 1801-1900 5th ed.

I have the opportunity to buy the following Eritrean coins:

1891 5 Tallero Unc.
1891 5 Tallero EF

anyone here familiar with the coins? Specifically, are they commonly counterfeited? What is the 'real world', as compared to Krause, value for these two. Any information is really appreciated. TIA.


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    ZoharZohar Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a real hard to find piece in UNC. Make sure you confirm authenticity as these tend to be forged.
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭
    I saw one at the local coin shop a while back that was suspicious (surfaces looked odd- kind of polished). The shop owner agreed that the coin didn't look quite right.

    edited to add... at the time, I did a search on eBay and found a number of listings for pieces which were claimed to be counterfeits.
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Given they are authentic, what would one expect to pay for them?

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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    This should give you an idea. Ebay
    Numismasource ebay store
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was offered the coins at $500 and $300 respectively.

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    3Mark3Mark Posts: 593 ✭✭✭
    Don:

    Too cheap and they have been known to be counterfeited. Heritage sale this year on a 63 here

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Local part time dealer who does the local monthly coin show. I don't know, if real I can do OK on them. If not, he'll probably refund my money. I'll see him again at the end of Sept.

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    SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭✭
    The Eritrea talliro is a classic for world crown collectors, but infamous for its counterfeits way before the Chinese invasion. I too find them too cheap, especially the unc. 3Mark's example was a great one.


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    3Mark3Mark Posts: 593 ✭✭✭
    D:

    I think you are right and are of Italian origin. I think they used the transfer die method. Very hard to spot unless you know the coin or the workmanship.

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    1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
    ANACS advised me at the Boston ANA that my 1918 piece is definately fake. It's 2g underweight but looks AU. It was whizzed and partially retoned to hide a slightly pourous surface.

    I had bought it many years ago when I started putting together a crown size type set. The dealer has since passed away so I'm out a bit over $100.
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    ReveriesReveries Posts: 94
    This site is always a treasure trove of information. Very nice crowns though! I might take a chance on them.
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