Any chance of a 10?

thunderdan · July 18, 2010 2:36PM

IMO, these are two very high end PSA 9s. Don't think they have any shot at a 10 just through PSA's review service, and I've been considering cracking out and resubmitting. My simple question is do you think either card appears to have a reasonable chance at receiving a 10?

Here are some closeups of front and back:

1980 Topps Bird/Erving/Magic RC

1970 Topps Nolan Ryan

hammered · July 18, 2010 2:38PM

I think no on the Ryan
The Magic/Bird might have a shot

Dboneesq · July 18, 2010 2:49PM

My biggest fear would be could either of them come back LOWER if you cracked them.

Bird/Magic ... IMO ... NO WAY would it come back lower than a 9.

Ryan - IMO ... I think there is a good chance it would come back lower. BOTH top corners (especially on the pic of the reverse) do NOT look like "9" quality ... I guess it could be the scan.

GOOD LUCK if you crack 'em.

divecchia · July 18, 2010 2:51PM

<< I think no on the Ryan
The Magic/Bird might have a shot >>

I agree...

Good luck if you decide to try it...Donato

thunderdan · July 18, 2010 2:58PM

The only thing I see on the Bird/Magic card is the perforations have two interruptions on the bird panel and only one on the magic. no idea of PSA would ding the card for this.

captainthreeputt · July 18, 2010 3:25PM

IMO, do not bother with the Ryan. I think you got lucky on the PSA 9. If you crack it, it may come back lower. I think that is a beautiful Magic/Bird. It has a chance, and unless it comes back EOT, it will atleast hold it's PSA 9.

Good luck, but I think consensus says "no" to the Ryan!

yankeeno7 · July 18, 2010 7:53PM

no and no

fiveniner · July 18, 2010 10:20PM

leave them both alone.

slaphappy · July 19, 2010 1:25AM

Leave them both

hammered · July 19, 2010 1:35AM

<< Leave them both >>

He didn't say he's cracking them

A try at review never hurts if you've got a high-end 9
On a big card like the Bird, they'll scrutinize it pretty good
But in the case of the Bird, the review cost is low compared to the possible gain
If that's not a gray print mark by Magic's name, I'd send it in with your next review order

mikeschmidt · July 19, 2010 1:38AM

I definitely would not crack them. I don't think the Bird/Erving/Johnson has a shot at 10-

slaphappy · July 19, 2010 1:58AM

<< 

<< Leave them both >>

He didn't say he's cracking them

A try at review never hurts if you've got a high-end 9
On a big card like the Bird, they'll scrutinize it pretty good
But in the case of the Bird, the review cost is low compared to the possible gain
If that's not a gray print mark by Magic's name, I'd send it in with your next review order >>

He did say he was considering cracking them.

<< Don't think they have any shot at a 10 just through PSA's review service, and I've been considering cracking out and resubmitting >>

richtree · July 19, 2010 2:17AM

I say a DEF no on Nolan.

I think the bballers have a 10% shot but a 90% shot of being a 9 again...

thunderdan · July 19, 2010 2:23AM

No print mark on Magic's name. Really, aside from the perforation inconsistency mentioned earlier, I don't see anything not Gem Mint about the card. I am considering cracking as I don't think there's a very good chance they would bump it to a 10 on review, especially a card like this.

larryallen73 · July 19, 2010 2:33AM

I think no on the Ryan
The Magic/Bird might have a shot

My thoughts exactly.

I would submit the MAGIC for a review. I have had very good success bumping 9's to 10's on review. I think about 25% all beit a limited sampleing. I think I have resubbed about 12 and had 3 or 4 bump from a 9 to a 10.

Good luck.

WinPitcher · July 19, 2010 2:39AM

Review.

Steve

hammered · July 19, 2010 4:35AM

<< 

<< 

<< Leave them both >>

He didn't say he's cracking them

A try at review never hurts if you've got a high-end 9
On a big card like the Bird, they'll scrutinize it pretty good
But in the case of the Bird, the review cost is low compared to the possible gain
If that's not a gray print mark by Magic's name, I'd send it in with your next review order >>

He did say he was considering cracking them.

<< Don't think they have any shot at a 10 just through PSA's review service, and I've been considering cracking out and resubmitting >>

>>

My bad
Yeah cracking wouldn't be my first choice. I'd send it for review at least 2X first
If it doesn't bump, then maybe crack it. My biggest fear would be damaging a $700 card
and I think those breaks in the perforations are just part of the card

itzagoner · July 19, 2010 4:41AM

even a minute micro-speck in any of the dark areas on the Bird/Magic card will limit it to no better than a 9.....anything detectable, really, but worth a shot for a small price on review.

i'd be very satisfied with the grade on the Ryan.

good luck, hope ya get a bump.

Any chance of a 10?

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