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Grades back from Shipping Debacle !!!

thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
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Morning,

A few weeks ago a did a thread about a clown who shipped me set of 1942 M. P. & Co. America At War set of 5 each 8 Cards Strips, 48 cards. He just threw them loose between two skinny thin thin pieces of cardboard and the Postal Service bent them in two places creasing and destroying numerous cards and all the strips. I was pissed, paid $143. for the set. Worked with the seller, he refunded $83, so I paid $60 and kept the strips.
Broke them down and sold off all the crease, bent, torn cards and sub'd the rest.

Overall pretty happy, I called them as soon as they Popped yesterday and all of the MC stuff is going back to grading, I have had this argument with PSA before and Won, the cards were originally poorly manufactured so the pictures don't always line up with the perferations, but they still have to be seperated on the perferations....This does not make them MC. Last time they just Re-holdered with same grade and dropped the MC designation, we'll see what happens this time.

Anyway, only 3 straight 9's existed before this for the entire set, now I have two, maybe four more !!!!!!

Don't know where the VG-EX 4 came from, but grading these has to be about as subjective as it can get on grading!!!

1 1 17462787 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1939 WAR NEWS PICTURES 74 BRITISH BOMB GERMAN SHIPS AT WILHELMSHAVEN Card US
2 1 17462788 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 502 TRUCK CONVOY ON BURMA ROAD Card US
3 1 17462789 EXCELLENT 5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 503 JAP DESTROYER DESTROYED Card US
4 1 17462790 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 MC 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 505 U.S.S. ANDERSON Card US
5 1 17462791 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 MC 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 506 REPELLING JAPS AT MORESBY Card US
6 1 17462792 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 MC 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 507 ROUTING JAPS AT DARWIN Card US
7 1 17462793 EXCELLENT 5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 512 U.S. NAVAL ATTACK AT MARSHALL ISLAND Card US
8 1 17462794 NEAR MINT 7 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 511 PARACHUTE ACTION Card US
9 1 17462795 NEAR MINT 7 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 514 CORREGIDOR UNDERGROUND H.Q. Card US
10 1 17462796 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 518 PHILIPPINE GUERILLA ACTION Card US
11 1 17462797 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 519 COMING INVASION OF EUROPE Card US
12 1 17462798 NEAR MINT 7 MC 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 520 CHIANG KAI-SHEK Card US
13 1 17462799 MINT 9 MC 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 523 PULLING AWAY FROM SINKING SHIP Card US
14 1 17462800 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 526 OBSERVATION POST Card US
15 1 17462801 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 527 BOMBARDIER'S "GREENHOUSE" Card US
16 1 17462802 MINT 9 MC 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 529 NAVY TUNNEL AT CORREGIDOR Card US
17 1 17462803 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 530 STALIN Card US
18 1 17462804 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 531 SUBMARINE CONNING TOWER Card US
19 1 17462805 EXCELLENT 5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 534 SINKING JAPS IN CORAL SEA Card US
20 1 17462806 EXCELLENT 5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 535 COLLIN P. KELLY Card US
21 1 17462807 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 538 NIGHT ATTACK IN AUSTRALIA Card US
22 1 17462808 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 539 SERGEANT WIRELESS OPERATOR Card US
23 1 17462809 MINT 9 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 542 CAPSIZED JAP AT GILBERT ISLAND Card US
24 1 17462810 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 544 U.S. MARINE TRANSPORT PLANE Card US
25 1 17462811 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 546 U.S. PLANES BOMB TOKIO Card US
26 1 17462812 MINT 9 1942 R12 AMERICA AT WAR 547 DEFENDING DARWIN HARBOR Card US
Total Items: 26
Date Received: 7/7/2010
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK
Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!

Comments

  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    note to self: Neil is a leprechaun, follow him everywhere until he leads you to the pot o' gold. image
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    "I have had this argument with PSA before and Won, the cards were originally poorly manufactured so the pictures don't always line up with the perferations, but they still have to be seperated on the perferations....This does not make them MC. Last time they just Re-holdered with same grade and dropped the MC designation, we'll see what happens this time."

    This is BS. You said "so the pictures don't always line up" and "don't always" means that the cards do sometimes come lined up. Cards that line up deserve to be graded higher than cards that are MC. If every example of every card always comes the same way then it's a different story.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>"I have had this argument with PSA before and Won, the cards were originally poorly manufactured so the pictures don't always line up with the perferations, but they still have to be seperated on the perferations....This does not make them MC. Last time they just Re-holdered with same grade and dropped the MC designation, we'll see what happens this time."

    This is BS. You said "so the pictures don't always line up" and "don't always" means that the cards do sometimes come lined up. Cards that line up deserve to be graded higher than cards that are MC. If every example of every card always comes the same way then it's a different story. >>



    KB,

    Evening,

    Appreciate your opinion and lack of knowledge of the product mentioned in this thread, have always tried to be there for you when you have an opinion on something, and have never jumped off the edge myself, never particularly defended you, but never tried to make you out as an idiot. But evidently you need to make an opinion on something you have no clue about, so anyway, enjoy your high and mighty opinion. Next time you sub a Lot of 40's Non Sport give me a shout and we can discuss the details.

    Have a great time!!

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923 ✭
    Nice submission!

    Congrats!
  • effeeffe Posts: 190 ✭✭
    So there's a difference between miscut and mis-perforated?

    My registry sets

  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>So there's a difference between miscut and mis-perforated? >>



    Partially my point !!!!

    Thanks
    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • lsutigers1973lsutigers1973 Posts: 11,093 ✭
    If the cards were printed the same as a miscut, wouldn't that be the same thing? I'm confused.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    show us some raw pics, curious to see what this set looks like...
  • DrKDrK Posts: 58 ✭
    Seems like a very weak argument but that doesn't mean it won't sway PSA. At the very best I would think you might talk your way into an OC qualifier here rather than the MC qualifier. Without images it's impossible to tell but from the description they sound like the very definition of off-center.
  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭
    Morning,

    Didn't prevail this time, they sent the cards to me Fri. anyway, as is. Oh Well !

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
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