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gold dukat Netherlands - question
Andres
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Any idear what happened to this 1729 gold ducat ? possible a shipwreck coin,
This is not a hand hammered coin, but made with a balance press, so should be perfect round with a nice edge,
when new.
This is not a hand hammered coin, but made with a balance press, so should be perfect round with a nice edge,
when new.
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If fellow collectors ever get a chance to see the mint there in Utrecht, might also want to see the Netherlands Spoorwegen Museum - literally their train museum which is also in Utrecht and well worth a visit.
Heres another ducat I bought last month, this came from the VOC shipwreck the Flying Deer,
also a bent /damaged coin.
Probably the first ducat was made part of a necklace, after it was recovered (damaged) from the shipwreck in 1984-1985 ?
as I understand all ducats minted in 1729 were taken on board (in UNC condition) in 1735 at the Flying Deer,
it sunk almost immediatly after leaving the harbour in Vlissingen-Zeeland.
of the 6000 ducats total;
2000 ducats were minted in the province of Holland
2000 ducats were minted in the province of West Friesland
2000 ducats were minted in the province of Utrecht
about 5200 ducats were recovered by Rex Cowan & John Rose leading a British diving team.
a second VOC ship, the Anna Catharina which sunk together with the Flying Deer is yet to be found,
she also carried gold ducats and silver pieces of 8
Saor Alba, the national dutch coin collection was moved from a Museum in Leiden to Utrecht , the collection
is now part of the Utrecht Mint (KNM = Koninklijke Nederlandse Munt)
another good reason to visit the place.
most of the ducats minted in the last 100 years are doing just over scrap metal,
3,5 Grammes x 30 euro = 105 euro = $140 US
because they were very popular world trade coins between 1600-1800 ,many ducats were also minted in Hungary and Russia.
I am thinking my old ducat was dated 1829 or something. It was minted in Brussels, and I sold it in 1999 for about 4 X what I paid for it. It was in a bunch of 19th century gold, mostly Russian and German that I bought then and slowly dispersed. I wished I had kept the Russians also as I had the 15 rubles etc, and now they are worth tonnes more than then.
many dutch coins are offered and sold on a dutch site named: marktplaats , look for: gouden dukaat.
but probably most sellers won't ship abroard.
ofcause eBay netherlands has a lot of these ducats also on offer.
I think the double ducat is more desirebly if you like the newer coins, with 7 Grammes they have more ""body""
compared to the flimsy ducats of 3,5 Gram.
silver ducats are also still made by the Mint in Utrecht,
I buy them every year.
Zilveren Dukat 873/1000 - 28,25 Gram - diameter 40mm - approx 4000 coins minted each year.
<< <i>I am interested in ducats as well, but I only care about the ones that were actually used for trade transactions, so I need to stay clear of the NCLT versions. (Presumably the modern ones.) >>
Element519,
I basicly agree with you, but I find it is nice to have a few examples of ducats from throughout the ages in your collection, then you can explain how there usage changed (ie. from trade to bullion) to interested parties.