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wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
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A few years ago I came in to possession a collection of a front and back press plates for a major news paper. Each covers a big event in Baseball history. I know the following to be true

Only 10 of each plate were made (9 presses and a backup)
Each one that I have was used in the production of the paper

I have had these in my collection for some time now and I was thinking about selling them. Someone had told me that I would not be able to sell them because the News Paper owned the rights to the images and it would be considered their property. I was thinking that this would be untrue for a collector sale. Does anyone have any advice on this?

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  • pdub1819pdub1819 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭✭
    Welcome to the boards!

    And, I have no clue.

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  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    You are fine to sell them.

    You can not sell the rights to the article or the image or publish them.

    Also, not that it matters, from my understanding of People vs New York Times (re: internet website), the photographer and writers own their properties and not the paper.

    Clear Skies,
    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • diamondmandiamondman Posts: 2,020
    Possession is 9/10ths of the law. You own them you can sell them, unless you broke into the newspaper and stole them or they were reported as stolen property.
    the only thing you can't do is use them to print pages without the consent of MLB & the newspaper.
  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    These were actually pulled from the garbage after the printing process was done. So I guess I am good to sell? I can put these up on ebay? I guess I now have to figure out what they are worth.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I bought both of my print plates on ebay. I can't remember how much I bought them for, but I think they ranged from $20 to $50 each. I think they're a cool collectible. Can we see some pics? What event does it cover?

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  • BRDSRBRDSR Posts: 94
    As a general rule, you can do virtually anything you want with something found in the garbage.

    Everything others have said sounds right to me.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi, hello, how are ya? image
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    Ralph

  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    I have
    The death of Sinatra
    Many McGwire and Sosa home runs while going for the record and Mcgwire finally braking the record
    Yankees winning their 24th pennant
    Yankee pull out sections

    My prize in my collection Cal Ripken Stepping down on the back page and Clinton sex tapes on the on the front page

    I will try to get some pics up soon.

    I thought these thinks would be worth more, because they are limited
  • 2cardguys2cardguys Posts: 428


    << <i>I bought both of my print plates on ebay. I can't remember how much I bought them for, but I think they ranged from $20 to $50 each. I think they're a cool collectible. Can we see some pics? What event does it cover? >>


    Jeff:

    Those are printing plates? Looks very cool I would have thought the print would be reversed.. looks like a crystal clear copy of the paper...very neat... Nice frame job and some heavy duty hangers there as well.
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  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    here are a few

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  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I bought both of my print plates on ebay. I can't remember how much I bought them for, but I think they ranged from $20 to $50 each. I think they're a cool collectible. Can we see some pics? What event does it cover? >>


    Jeff:

    Those are printing plates? Looks very cool I would have thought the print would be reversed.. looks like a crystal clear copy of the paper...very neat... Nice frame job and some heavy duty hangers there as well. >>



    The ink is applied to the printing plates, and then picked up by rollers (ink reversed at this time), then onto the paper.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    yes it is called offset printing
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I bought both of my print plates on ebay. I can't remember how much I bought them for, but I think they ranged from $20 to $50 each. I think they're a cool collectible. Can we see some pics? What event does it cover? >>


    Jeff:

    Those are printing plates? Looks very cool I would have thought the print would be reversed.. looks like a crystal clear copy of the paper...very neat... Nice frame job and some heavy duty hangers there as well. >>



    Yes, they're printing plates. I framed them myself. I'd love to get more, I just like how they display. It's hard to find any that aren't all dinged and scratched up. These two are in pretty nice condition.

    wldcard, do you have a pic of the Ripken?
  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    I am new at forums. so please forgive me. I have updated my previous post with images
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Those are pretty nice! Once you decide to post them on ebay, please mention something in the Buy/Sell/Trade forum, I'd like to take a shot at that Ripken/Clinton.
  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    to Jefcbay - Will do. Also your Immortal Cal Press Plate, does that still have ink on it? It looks pretty dark, or is that just that type of plate?
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it has ink on it, but I don't know much about these things. I just assumed they gave in different colors or something.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Welcome wildcards!

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi wc - welcome.

    I have a simple question...why not contact the news and ask them? Unless those were stolen, they were unloaded by the company and are now the property of the new possessor who can do what they want with them.

    Good luck if you plan to sell.
    Mike
  • wldcardwldcard Posts: 8
    I was thinking of contacting the paper but I was worried that they would tell me to return them, just because someone wanted them or just to be difficult, and I would not know the difference. I was just wondering where I stood. I think I got my answer. I think collector to collector sales are fine, as long as I or the purchaser is not reproducing the newspapers
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was thinking of contacting the paper but I was worried that they would tell me to return them, just because someone wanted them or just to be difficult, and I would not know the difference. I was just wondering where I stood. I think I got my answer. I think collector to collector sales are fine, as long as I or the purchaser is not reproducing the newspapers >>

    I don't know why they would mess with you - but here's a suggestion - they don't have any idea who you are - just call them and ask - if someone were selling old plates - are they ok to buy? Are they stolen? Were they discarded and ok to buy? Can I reproduce plates that were used some time ago?

    Just a thought.
    Mike
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