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Slab Protective Sleeves?

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
Some dealers shipped out slabbed coins in clear sleeves... are these a actual numismatic product or made for baseball cards image

Polishing slabs with PlastX is a real pain yet afterward I'd like to locate these sleeves to reduce any future scratches.
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I bought some plastic sleeves made for slabs once from a dealer at a coin show a few years back. They claimed that it would fit all slabs, though I found that it was a tight fit with PCGS slabs. And if you take the coin in and out of the sleeve too often, you'll case annoying hairline scratches on the slab itself.
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  • You can pick these up at any major show. Just swing by the supplies table. There are several different ones including sleeves as well as smaller zip lock type bags.
  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Did someone have flat plastic pieces that adhered to the slabs with static electricity like the cover that comes on your computer screen when you buy it or did I dream that. They had clear ones and even colored ones with a round hole in them so you could make the slab look like it was custom colored and still view the coin. They reminded me of those old Colorforms toy things from back in the day. Nah, I must of been dreaming...
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can make them fit PCGS slabs and have a little room to spare if you stick a finger in each side of the sleeve and stretch it outwards. Usually I would break about 1 out of 10 sleeves. They are darn cheap though.

    Ken
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Some of us refer to those sleeves as "coin condoms". Personally I don't like them as they're more trouble than they're worth...they don't really work and they often don't fit properly.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I gave up on those baseball cheap plastic sleeves. Now I use Zip lock bags that easily hold any of the TPG holders. They are much thicker, and protect the holders much better.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭


    << <i>Did someone have flat plastic pieces that adhered to the slabs with static electricity like the cover that comes on your computer screen when you buy it or did I dream that. They had clear ones and even colored ones with a round hole in them so you could make the slab look like it was custom colored and still view the coin. They reminded me of those old Colorforms toy things from back in the day. Nah, I must of been dreaming... >>



    What on earth would you want that for ? image Maybe you could just pick up some tint film at an auto parts store? image
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Rick Snow uses the protective film you can get for hand-held touchscreen devices on some of his stuff. I don't know what the durability and cost per slab comes out to be, but it's clear.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Zip lock. I use the 3x4 4 mil., perfect for slabs and a little thicker than a regular open end sleeve.

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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486


    << <i>Zip lock. I use the 3x4 4 mil., perfect for slabs and a little thicker than a regular open end sleeve.

    Royal Bag Linky >>



    And they're good for protecting sandwiches too.image
  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I bought 100 of the sleeves a few years ago...still have 96 of them somewhere. I decided they were not clear enough to look through and too much trouble to put on. I ship coins I sell (more expensive ones) in small ziplock bags (3x4) that I buy by the 1000. Coins I collect, I prefer to keep naked in PCGS blue (or green) boxes. --Jerry
  • I think a custom plastic sleeve, or baseball-type card holder to keep the slab in, and then it would fit perfectly in an old, small sterling silver cigarette case I have.

    But then, I'll need some sort of protective sleeve to keep from getting scratches on the silver case.

    Hmmm... , may need to re-think this.image
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭✭

    I have researched several different types of sleeves, and zip-lock bags as well, but have found none that I believe to be sufficiently inert. I am worried about outgassing of the plasticizers in these products in such close proximity to the coins, as slabs aren't air-tight.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you remember the sleeves of some type of shrinking plastic you could put on easter eggs? It slipped on the egg, and then just a little heat shrunk it tight.

    In my old trade in the bindery biz we had a shrink wrapper, which just had a roll of half folded plastic, and then a nichrome wire on an angle flipper that sealed it. then it went into a tunnel on a little conveyor which was heated up pretty good. The plastic was perfectly clear and with the heat seam totally air proof. tough also....

    Decades ago I shrank wrap a few brand new comic books for my father, and found them again a few years ago after long storage. Though I didnt open them, Id say the preservation was 100%.

    There are two ways of looking at what you are trying to achieve here though...is your intent to protect the pristine slab face from getting scratches over the course of normal "use" or do you want to seal it off from possible atmospheric contanimants from getting in/or out?

    Debate...in need of some actual scientific research, into normally held TPG slabs and identicle slabs which have been hermatically sealed, over long term atmospheric reactions and inter reactions...this research has never been done...Is it better to seal in permanantly whatever moisture or pollutant in the air at the time of encapsulation...give or take naturally for the supposed (and also as far as I know unbacked by scientific proof) air transmissable tpg plastic slab...

    Or is better to let the ebb and flow of atmospheric pressure and contaminant of everytype eventually make their way past the plastic molecules and enter the inner sanctum of the teeeny little space where the coin resides? No doubt all inslab changes are the result of a situation on the metal of the coin reacting with the atmosphere encapsulated...rather than an action of the atmosphere in general pervading the surface of the plastic and altering the pristine surface of the coin. In a vivid illustration the Milk Spots that develop on Bullion silver pieces...would it be that if these slabs were vacuum sealed initially, the metallic reactions would not take place, or would the existing atmosphere remaining within the slab be sufficent on a molecular level to enable these long term changes to occur without any influence from any outside atmosphere?


  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone as there's a lot of pro's-n-con's to consider based on your experience.

    I'm more so looking to do something to protect NGC slab as they IMHO tend to re-scuff far more PCGS slabs.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heres something to consider, heat shrink bags!
    @

    http://www.ajminc.com/starter_kits/index.htm
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks everyone as there's a lot of pro's-n-con's to consider based on your experience.

    I'm more so looking to do something to protect NGC slab as they IMHO tend to re-scuff far more PCGS slabs. >>



    NGC 20 coin slab boxes since NGC coins are too tall for a PCGS box.

    NGC Coin Boxes

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • wayneherndonwayneherndon Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭
    At Wizard, we normally have these Slab Protectors in stock. However, the manufacturer is currently out of stock and now so are we. Another popular alternative is these Slab Size Zip Lock Bags.

    WH
  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 935 ✭✭✭✭

    I have always understood TPG slabs as not being airtight. Putting them in plastic sleeves or covering with plastic protectors of unknown composition could be asking for trouble, breaking down like the old PVC 2x2's all over again, and maybe even retaining moisture.
    If used, make sure they are archival quality. I would never use such. I use NGC boxes as they hold all TPG holder forms and still allow the cover to close. I don't have any kind of scratching problem. The NGC grading table at shows has from time to time given one away free for the asking

    Krueger
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whenever I ship a coin worth over a couple of hundred or so I just ship it in one of the inner boxes from an Intercept Shield double protection box. They're made for slabs and do a pretty good job at keeping the coin safe during shipment.
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780
    Hi,

    I just use Polypro pvc-free sleeves for postcards - perfect fit, one end stays open - there is even a "long" postcard sleeve for added space for a label, they don't scratched are are really great at keeping things from scr6tahcing the holder. image

    Eric
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>At Wizard, we normally have these Slab Protectors in stock. However, the manufacturer is currently out of stock and now so are we. Another popular alternative is these Slab Size Zip Lock Bags.

    WH >>



    Wayne, you should consider stocking the 4 mil 3X4 zips. Big difference in durability.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.



  • << <i>Heres something to consider, heat shrink bags!
    @

    http://www.ajminc.com/starter_kits/index.htm >>



    Maybe not a good idea after all. From the above website:

    "AJM shrink bags are made from quality 100-Gauge PVC materials..."
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't forget your.....

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    Leo

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Thanks everyone as there's a lot of pro's-n-con's to consider based on your experience.

    I'm more so looking to do something to protect NGC slab as they IMHO tend to re-scuff far more PCGS slabs. >>



    NGC 20 coin slab boxes since NGC coins are too tall for a PCGS box.

    NGC Coin Boxes >>



    I have NGC slabs that are too tall for NGC boxes.......go figure.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,517 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have always understood TPG slabs as not being airtight. Putting them in plastic sleeves or covering with plastic protectors of unknown composition could be asking for trouble, breaking down like the old PVC 2x2's all over again, and maybe even retaining moisture.
    If used, make sure they are archival quality. I would never use such. I use NGC boxes as they hold all TPG holder forms and still allow the cover to close. I don't have any kind of scratching problem. The NGC grading table at shows has from time to time given one away free for the asking

    Krueger >>



    I use NGC boxes as they hold all TPG holder forms and still allow the cover to close.

    This is false!


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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