REALLY PATHETIC if the Yankees( #1 buyer of Championships) get Cliff Lee!!!!
chaz43
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Title says it all.... Yankees (my 2nd favorite team... really) spend spend spend to get Cliff Lee .... baseball is a fricken joke... go ahead Yankees how about a 300 million dollar payroll ?????.....pathetic...... go buy another championship.. how can anyone get excited about this....it's sad...
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They are trading for a player.
Steve
<< <i>Title says it all.... Yankees (my 2nd favorite team... really) spend spend spend to get Cliff Lee .... baseball is a fricken joke... go ahead Yankees how about a 300 million dollar payroll ?????.....pathetic...... go buy another championship.. how can anyone get excited about this....it's sad...
chaz >>
Being a Rays fan, it's depressing...
<< <i>Get your facts straight they are not buying anyone.
They are trading for a player.
Steve >>
Winpitcher get your facts straight.........what's Lee goin to pitch for......... peanuts????? Try a multiyear contract for 15 -20 mil per year....it's a joke.............. chaz
Or are you saying that a condition of this trade is for him to sign a long term deal?
Geez you must be right in the loop, has the trade even been completed yet?
These are the facts, the ones you have left out.
Steve
<< <i>Get your facts straight they are not buying anyone.
They are trading for a player.
Steve >>
There's nothing wrong with it, but there aren't very many teams out there that can continually dump off prospects yearly and take on $15 million contracts in return. It gets tiresome.
Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought?
Oh they finally win a WS and the whining begins.
Face it MLB has always and I mean always been this way.
It's just that now the $ are higher and the media is 24/7
Some here think this is all new.
It ain't.
For disclosure I'm not a Yankee fan. Hell I like the Pirates better than them.
Steve
<< <i>What really gets tiresome is the constant whining.
Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought?
Oh they finally win a WS and the whining begins.
Face it MLB has always and I mean always been this way.
It's just that now the $ are higher and the media is 24/7
Some here think this is all new.
It ain't.
For disclosure I'm not a Yankee fan. Hell I like the Pirates better than them.
Steve >>
I'm not whining just saying it's a pain in the butt to have one of you favorite teams try and keep up with a team that literally has unlimited resources at their disposal. If it really bothered me that much I would probably stop liking the Rays so I didn't have to deal with the Yankees at all. I'm just giving my opinion, relax.
That's one of the reasons I don't pay much attention to baseball anymore.
One of the reasons the NFL has surpassed MLB in popularity.
And it is the definition of insanity - although save for a half dozen other owners in baseball who actually try to compete, no one in baseball seems to care.
Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
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Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought? >>
I (perhaps you too?) grew up thinking I'd never see them make the playoffs, let alone win a World Series. Those were some rough years.
Sabathia and Lee on the same team... sounds familiar... hmmm, where did that happen before? Oh yeah, another black eye for the city of Cleveland.
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Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought? >>
I (perhaps you too?) grew up thinking I'd never see them make the playoffs, let alone win a World Series. Those were some rough years. >>
Ask a Cubs fan if 9 years is a long time?
Poor Cubs fans
<< <i>I'm gonna try to stay out of this one, because I don't feel like getting cussed out again by random Spankee fans...
Sabathia and Lee on the same team... sounds familiar... hmmm, where did that happen before? Oh yeah, another black eye for the city of Cleveland. >>
I really do feel for Cleveland. They've had a tough decade.
'90's were decent for them at least.
Can't really blame them with the way the game is set up currently.... however, I do think MLB needs to re-evaluate their business model. The NFL's popularity has easily surpassed them due to having more parity and an easier to follow season.
In baseball, there is often a team or two that either suprise/shock everyone each season, but most of the time there is a small number of perennial large market teams always in control.
Salary Caps and parity is better for the sport in general, we don't have that and one of the top teams were going to get Lee... If I were the Yankees I would've done the same thing.
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Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought? >>
I (perhaps you too?) grew up thinking I'd never see them make the playoffs, let alone win a World Series. Those were some rough years. >>
Ask a Cubs fan if 9 years is a long time?
Poor Cubs fans
Can't argue that. Of course it was my whole lifetime at that point so it seemed like forever!
I'm a Bills fan too so I can at least share my pain with you there.
<< <i>Being a Rays fan, it's depressing... >>
+1
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Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought? >>
I (perhaps you too?) grew up thinking I'd never see them make the playoffs, let alone win a World Series. Those were some rough years. >>
Ask a Cubs fan if 9 years is a long time?
Poor Cubs fans
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
I've got six letters for those who suffered through this 'nine year drought': B-O-O H-O-O
Does that mean the Yanks don't spend 15-20 million on him and someone else does?
Just sayin........
The NBA has a cap and I keep seeing the Lakers in the finals.
Steve
When Steinbrenner bought the team they were a laughingstock.
Cities like Chicago, Boston LA, St Louis (beer money) all have deep pockets too.
Some teams (MINN) are owned by billionaires.
Maybe the reason is if they make a mistake they spend the money to correct it.
Some of you act as if only the Yanks buy free agents.
last point if you are a super star and 2 teams offer you the same amount of dough
one plays in NY the other in podunk, where are you going?
Lets not blame the Yanks only, the players strive to play there too.
Lebron notwithstanding.
Steve
<< <i>What really gets tiresome is the constant whining.
Where was all the whining when the Yanks were in a 9 year drought?
Oh they finally win a WS and the whining begins.
Face it MLB has always and I mean always been this way.
It's just that now the $ are higher and the media is 24/7
Some here think this is all new.
It ain't.
For disclosure I'm not a Yankee fan. Hell I like the Pirates better than them.
Steve >>
Since 1996, Yankees have been in the world series half the time, it's sad.... chaz
<< <i>So at least give them the credit for doing what it takes to have deep pockets,
When Steinbrenner bought the team they were a laughingstock.
Cities like Chicago, Boston LA, St Louis (beer money) all have deep pockets too.
Some teams (MINN) are owned by billionaires.
Maybe the reason is if they make a mistake they spend the money to correct it.
Some of you act as if only the Yanks buy free agents.
last point if you are a super star and 2 teams offer you the same amount of dough
one plays in NY the other in podunk, where are you going?
Lets not blame the Yanks only, the players strive to play there too.
Lebron notwithstanding.
Steve >>
Deep pockets doesn't make very good baseball...remember the Orioles, Pirates, Rangers, Indians....... it would be nice to see them in the WS once in awhile... chaz
Players do like going to NY because it is the most storied francise in sports history (I am not bragging just stating facts) although there is something to be said for players like Joe Mauer who decides to stay put with his hometown team regardless of how much he could make with another team. You have to root for and respect a guy like that. He is a true heor to the kids of Minnasota.
The NBA does NOT have a traditional "salary cap". Teams may freely spend over the determined "amount" via the mid-level and bi-annual exceptions, various "minimums", and other accounting tricks.
The traditional definition of a CAP is a number that you cannot exceed. It is clear that NBA teams exceed this number frequently.
Thus, no "salary cap" exists in the NBA, it is more accurately described as a "soft cap" - an extremely different animal than a traditional cap.
I used to be a huge baseball fan but now I barely follow it. I still like collecting vintage baseball cards but my interest in modern sports lies solely with football.
<< <i>I'm gonna try to stay out of this one, because I don't feel like getting cussed out again by random Spankee fans...
Sabathia and Lee on the same team... sounds familiar... hmmm, where did that happen before? Oh yeah, another black eye for the city of Cleveland. >>
I do feel bad for the city but on the bright side the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is very cool. I have been there twice and I live in CT.
<< <i>Fortunately in Football, owners like Dan Snyder who try to do the same get tapped out with the salary cap which doesn't allow them to cover up poor management decisions. I'm praying the NFL doesn't eliminate the cap.
I used to be a huge baseball fan but now I barely follow it. I still like collecting vintage baseball cards but my interest in modern sports lies solely with football. >>
This and the fact that many drafted players can bring immediate impact to teams is exactly why football is so much more consumer friendly to every fan in the country.
If the NFL had baseball rules then the Cowboys would win more often than not with JJ's pockets. The players union is wanting a change in the rules, which is why the strike is looming after next year, if it passes, expect Dallas to be in the SB for years to come.
Unfortunately, until the unions stop running baseball then nothing will change.
true, but this is way down the list from the top reasons.
Gambling
Fantasy football
16 game schedule
ADD
ADHD
violence (mouth-breathers)
tailgating (built in social event)
<< <i> Another idea which would also work is to move the trade deadline to the all-star break. It wouldnt matter on this deal, but it would on a majority of the late season trades
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Ironically, we had to do that in my fantasy baseball league to get rid of the 'last ditch huge risk' trades.
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<< <i>I'm gonna try to stay out of this one, because I don't feel like getting cussed out again by random Spankee fans...
Sabathia and Lee on the same team... sounds familiar... hmmm, where did that happen before? Oh yeah, another black eye for the city of Cleveland. >>
I do feel bad for the city but on the bright side the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is very cool. I have been there twice and I live in CT. >>
its not much of a rock n roll hall of fame when bands like kiss, rush, alice cooper, ozzy osbourne, def leppard, deep purple, doobie brothers, iron maiden etc are snubbed, while madonna and disco bands like chic and abba are in.
And back to topic, MLB needs a cap.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Title says it all.... Yankees (my 2nd favorite team... really) spend spend spend to get Cliff Lee .... baseball is a fricken joke... go ahead Yankees how about a 300 million dollar payroll ?????.....pathetic...... go buy another championship.. how can anyone get excited about this....it's sad...
chaz >>
Welcome to 2010 Chaz.
I'm not a Yankees fan, but they are allowed to do whatever they need to do to try and win a World Series. The last time I checked, every other team in MLB is allowed to try and deal for Lee as well.
brian
Give us your entire minor league system and we'll call it even.
<< <i>He actually might not be a bad pickup for the Yanks if Houston would pick up some of his contract (not too much, like $5M for next year). >>
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
Steve
<< <i>Deep pockets doesn't make very good baseball...remember the Orioles, Pirates, Rangers, Indians....... it would be nice to see them in the WS once in awhile... chaz >>
Umm the Orioles? I guess you didn't know that the owner there is a very wealthy man.
Who chooses to not spend his money.
The point of my post Chaz was that the Yanks did what it took to get deep pockets.
They invested and remade the brand.
Steve
<< <i>Since 1996, Yankees have been in the world series half the time, it's sad >>
Ummm, Between 1996 and 2001 the bulk of the 'half of the time' the Yankees WON with homegrown talent.
Jeter, Williams, Posada, Pettite, Rivera, et al were all home grown Chaz.
Cmon Chaz you can do better than this.
Just admit that you hate the Yanks and let's move on.
Oh, the Rangers got Cliff Lee
One last question Chaz, where was the uproar from you last year when the Phillies 'bought' Lee?
Steve
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<< <i>I'm gonna try to stay out of this one, because I don't feel like getting cussed out again by random Spankee fans...
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Good idea . Are you gonna come out of nowhere again and crash the next Yankee championship thread with your tears like you did last year?
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<< <i>Yankee hating dopes will say ANYTHING to make themselves feel better. I spent almost my entire childhood watching the Yankees SUCK. After the 77 and 78 series wins and the disgraceful strike year loss to the Dodgers came 14 years of bad to downright awful Yankee teams. Yankee hating crybabys are nothing new. They were around in the 1920's, 30's, 40's, etc etc etc
i certainly dont blame or hate the yankees. Its not all their fault mlb is run poorly.
<< <i>Yankee hating dopes will say ANYTHING to make themselves feel better. I spent almost my entire childhood watching the Yankees SUCK. After the 77 and 78 series wins and the disgraceful strike year loss to the Dodgers came 14 years of bad to downright awful Yankee teams. Yankee hating crybabys are nothing new. They were around in the 1920's, 30's, 40's, etc etc etc
<<< 1920's, 30's, 40's, etc >>>
Yea, but that was a good problem wasn't it?