Is Joey Votto the biggest All Star snub of all time?

VitoCo1972

The rosters are like 34 guys deep on both teams now (which dilutes it to begin with), but how does the guy who should WIN THE MVP in the league right now not make the All Star Team? He's top 5 in every Triple Crown Category and leading the league in OPS. Am I insane here???

lsutigers1973

He is hurt by being a first baseman. Even with the casual fan Pujols, Howard and Fielder have been known throughout baseball for years now. How many people outside Cincy, fantasy baseball nerds or the card collecting community knew who Votto was before this season?

Yes he got screwed but they can not carry 4 first basemen.

VitoCo1972

<< <i>He is hurt by being a first baseman. Even with the casual fan Pujols, Howard and Fielder have been known throughout baseball for years now. How many people outside Cincy, fantasy baseball nerds or the card collecting community knew who Votto was before this season?

Yes he got screwed but they can not carry 4 first basemen. >>



Yes, I get that...doesn't answer the question though. Has there ever been a bigger snub? Has a guy who should win his league's MVP at the halfway point ever been left off the team by the voters AND managers?

grote15

He's got to be the biggest snub in recent memory at least. No way Fielder deserves to go over Votto.

Garabaldi

There would be less snubs if they would eliminate having to have a representative from each team.

Saberman

I didn't even look at the nominees, but if Howard is in there over him....good gracious. Just shows how dumb a lot of sports people are. Yes, including the guys who play at the highest level. It doesn't mean their brains are at the highest level.

lsutigers1973

<< <i>There would be less snubs if they would eliminate having to have a representative from each team. >>



Wouldn't help Votto.

The All Star game is nothing more than an exhibition game for the fans. If more baseball fans wanted to see Votto play 1st instead of Pujols, Fielder or Howard he would be on the team. His only chance would be the manager or the last guy in vote. Again, from a manager's standpoint, no point in adding a 4th first baseman.

It's more a lack of popularity of the player than it is a snub.

Brick

<< <i>There would be less snubs if they would eliminate having to have a representative from each team. >>

WinPitcher

No he is not.

1935 Hank Greenberg is the ultimate snub.

He had about 25 100 300 at the break.

Votto is deserving, don't get me wrong, but year after year we hear of someone getting snubbed.


Steve

VitoCo1972

<< <i>Votto is deserving, don't get me wrong, but year after year we hear of someone getting snubbed.
>>



Not like this though. This is at least the worst in recent memory. Seriously - he would be the MVP if the vote were held right now. Cincinnati is nowhere near the lead in that division without him, plus the crazy good numbers.

larryallen73

There would be less snubs if they would eliminate having to have a representative from each team.


Seriously. That is one stupid rule. Looking back at some of the "all star" baseball cards, over the years, is funny.

Blacklabelsociety

people still watch the all-star game?

WinPitcher

<< <i>he would be the MVP if the vote were held right now. >>




C'mon.......


Steve

Saberman

I am waiting for some moron to come on here and say Howard has as many RBI as Votto, and justify it that way...

VitoCo1972

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<< <i>he would be the MVP if the vote were held right now. >>




C'mon.......


Steve >>



Ummm, who would be if not him?

RoarIn84

there are obnoxious snubs every season, and mostly it has to do with position... Everyone knows the fans are idiots and vote in the traditionals (Pujols, Jeter) and the hypesters (Heyward?!?!?).... Everyone also states cases for their own team's players. Me, i can't believe this will be Miguel Cabrera's first AllStar appearance for the Tigers.... not to mention a few other valid snubs (Jackson, Verlander, Boesch, Ordonez)... But yes, i agree, Votto is a glaring snub. He had better learn another position!!!

jdip9

vito, i agree whole-heartedly about Votto....and if cared about the game AT ALL, I would do some research to back up your argument....but until Bud removes the WS home-field advantage to the winner, I'm not watching the game. I can't support idiotic ideas.

Mickey71

I remember many times Palmeiro not going to the all star game. They had guys like McGwire, Thomas, Thome, Giambi. Votto is simply playing the position of the great one in St. Louis.----Which means no all star starts in the forseeable future.

Greenberg was snubbed many times for being Jewish. When he had the 58 HR's going into the final 5 games he walked like 15 times or something very close to that number.

estang

I recall Dave Kingman leading the Major Leagues in HR & RBI one year & not being selected. His average was farily low, but still...

1984 Oakland A's

23 HR
71 RBIs
.270 Batting Average

No All-Star selection

markj111

Isn't he one of the five players eligible to be selected? He hasn't been snubbed yet.

cincyredlegs

There is no doubt Votto was snubbed and every year somebody is. At the end of the day, the All-Star Game is nothing more than a popularity contest. The fans vote the players in. Votto has to compete with Pujols, Howard and Prince who are ALL popular players.

LSU - you are correct. Most people outside of Cincinnati or card collectors didn't really know who Votto was before this year.

I hope Votto takes this slight and rachets it up another gear for the 2nd half of the season. Honestly, I don't care if any Reds make the All-Star Game......I want another Championship.

GO REDS.

Mark

WinPitcher

<< <i>Ummm, who would be if not him? >>




I don't know, only I wouldn't say it was him if the voting was done today.

You have a pitcher at 14 and 1.............

Pujols

et al.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is having a career year but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

I simply answered your question, you asked if it was the greatest snub of all time and IMO it wasn't.




Steve

bman90278

Glad to see Votto get in. Better late than never.

brian

grote15

Traded Matt Garza for Votto in fantasy baseball this year and was glad I did!