am I covered as a buyer via paypal in this scenario?
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I negotiated to buy a $100 item with an ebay seller , off ebay. He sent me a paypal invoice for the item amount which I paid. What sort of buyer protection do I have in this scenario? The item was classified as a 'service' on the paypal invoice.
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John
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John
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Jeff
<< <i>I negotiated to buy a $100 item with an ebay seller , off ebay. He sent me a paypal invoice for the item amount which I paid. What sort of buyer protection do I have in this scenario? The item was classified as a 'service' on the paypal invoice.
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John >>
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Under the "merchandise" classification, you are covered for INR.
"Service" = No Coverage via PayPal, but you might try a credit
card chargeback. Slim chance, but possible.
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If a seller will encourage a buyer to rip EBAY, the seller will/may
also rip the buyer.
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He said "I negotiated to buy a $100 item with an Ebay seller , off ebay.
How do you know the seller encouraged the off Ebay negotiation? Many intelligent buyers know that Ebay charges fees and if the seller doesn't have to pay fees then it means they can buy the card at a lower price and maybe they can use the money more than Ebay. They know how to contact the seller and ask for their best price. Taking it off Ebay benefits the buyer more than the seller in most cases. With no attempt at an accurate %, if the card was sold on Ebay for $110 it would net the seller $100. If the buyer contacts the seller off Ebay he is told $100 for the card. The seller sees the same $100 but the buyer ends up saving himself $10. It's the same for buyers who complain about BING taking their 10% discount away. You can still get your 10% off by avoiding Ebay and contacting the seller directly.
Steve
<< <i>"If a seller will encourage a buyer to rip EBAY, the seller will/may also rip the buyer."
He said "I negotiated to buy a $100 item with an Ebay seller , off ebay.
How do you know the seller encouraged the off Ebay negotiation? Many intelligent buyers know that Ebay charges fees and if the seller doesn't have to pay fees then it means they can buy the card at a lower price and maybe they can use the money more than Ebay. They know how to contact the seller and ask for their best price. Taking it off Ebay benefits the buyer more than the seller in most cases. With no attempt at an accurate %, if the card was sold on Ebay for $110 it would net the seller $100. If the buyer contacts the seller off Ebay he is told $100 for the card. The seller sees the same $100 but the buyer ends up saving himself $10. It's the same for buyers who complain about BING taking their 10% discount away. You can still get your 10% off by avoiding Ebay and contacting the seller directly. >>
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I might better have said:
"If a seller will encourage or ALLOW a buyer to rip EBAY, the seller will/may also rip the buyer."
But, parsing culpability was not part of the OP's question. My
bash of the seller was a shoe that either party could wear, if
they choose to, AND a "warning" that sellers who will violate
their agreement with EBAY will/may also harm buyers.
BOTH sellers/buyers are engaging in improper conduct when
they use EBAY to make contact and then rip EBAY.
It is VERY easy to move EBAY buyers off of EBAY, after the
initial-contact sale has been completed. There is no need to
cheat EBAY out of a few bucks; the customer can be captured
on subsequent sales.
The listing is part of a contract that entitles EBAY to collect a fee
from the seller. Stealing the customer that EBAY delivered is a
breach of that contract; and, a TOS-violation by both buyer/seller.
That EBAY is, arguably, an Evil/RICO-Empire, does not inspire
me to want to steal a few dollars from them. Larger remedies
appeal to me, but not that one.
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