Can you use NGC graded coins for a registry here?

AnkurJ

I tried a few months ago, and it seems that only pcgs graded coins are accepted. Is this accurate or am I mistaken?
I currently have my registry with NGC as they accept PCGS graded coins.

AJ

ProofCents

Nope PCGS only

PawPaul

NGC coins are not graded by the same standards that the # 1 grading company in the world uses ;

for example - I broke out a 1949-D NGC MS 65 Franklin and submitted it to PCGS for my free Secure + Member grading .

It did not recieve a plus , in fact it did not grade MS65 ....it is now in a MS 64 FBL PCGS holder .

AnkurJ

Doesnt everyone say buy the coin not the holder? Ngc registry accepts PCGS coins, so why cant Pcgs do the same? Frankly, I find it foolish not to.

coinkat

This has been discussed and it is just not going to happen.

I agree about buying the coin- always buy the coin- the registery is fun in moderation-

OnlyGoldIsMoney

Don't expect NGC graded coins to be included in the PCGS registry anytime soon. That suits me just fine. NGC in my opinion is just too loose in the gold series I collect.

RegistryCoin

Perhaps NGC coins of 2009, 2010 and beyond could be included in the PCGS registry. Pops from these years are more similar than previous years. Standards may be getting more similar for these later years.

fcloud

If you have NCG coins why not simply put them in the NGC registry? They allow the PCGS coins, too. I have some of my sets in both.

PawPaul

<< <i>Doesnt everyone say buy the coin not the holder? Ngc registry accepts PCGS coins, so why cant Pcgs do the same? Frankly, I find it foolish not to. >>



I think it's because PCGS doesn't want inferior coins mucking up their registry sets !

llafoe

I wish PCGS allowed NGC coins in their registry. It would save me tens-of-thousands of dollars if I could buy NGC in lieu of PCGS!

tradedollarnut

Not unless your name is Eliasberg or Norweb.

Connecticoin

<< <i>Not unless your name is Eliasberg or Norweb. >>



Hey, they let your 1885 Trade Dollar in (a point lower, though).

BigRick

It'll NEVER happen. NGC inclusion = less grading fees. Get it?

LindeDad

They do have a crossover service.

grip

<< <i>Not unless your name is Eliasberg or Norweb. >>



You forgot Mark

DCW

"I wish PCGS allowed NGC coins in their registry. It would save me tens-of-thousands of dollars if I could buy NGC in lieu of PCGS!"

I think this pretty much sums it up.

GRANDAM

<< <i>This has been discussed and it is just not going to happen.

And this is the way it should be

Waltz

In my opinion (and apparently PCGS graders as well) NGC provide inflated grades. My (least) favorite example. I purchased a 1841 Proof Large Cent NGC 65 Red/Brown. Sent it to PCGS for grading. Guess what came back....Proof 63 RB. UGHHHH!!!

To be fair, I think PCGS was a little harsh...and NGC a little optimistic. But in registry sets where hundreds of thousands of dollars are being invested, you'll forgive me if I don't want inferior coins mucking up and invalidity the sets of people who have the patience to collect superior coins.

Perhaps the shallow end of the pool might be more comfortable?

Steve

And so the OP achieved his purpose by posing the question he did as the subject of this post. With almost 4k posts and almost 4 years experience on these boards he received just the kind of answers he would have expected. Steve

OnlyGoldIsMoney

The disparity between grading procedures would make a mockery of the PCGS registry - at least for some coin sets.

I once collected CAM/DCAM Jefferson proofs (1950-1964). NGC graded coins get little respect. The entire NGC population is 0.9 points higher than the average grade at PCGS. IMO they are too loose with the CAM and DCAM designations. The market recognizes the difference. Consider the 1957 proof Jefferson. A PCGS PR68CAM will cost you over $1,500 while a NGC PF68CAM can be had for under $300.

BigRick

Same is true for Cam/DCAM Lincolns.

coolkarma

As everyone says, "Buy the coin not the holder." If you do, I think you can minimize the likelihood of a downgrade if you cross from NGC (or ANACS or anyone else) to PCGS. I think you also improve your chances if you break the coin out of the holder before submitting. This allows the grader to have a better look at the coin. My "crossover" experience over the last few years has been more positive experiences than disappointments. Off the top of my head, I don't recall any downgrades and do relish these buffalo nickel upgrades (after breaking them out of the holders):

1913 D NGC 63 -> raw -> PCGS 64
1916 D ANACS 61 -> raw -> PCGS 62
1917 D ANACS VG10 -> raw -> PCGS F12
1920 D NGC 62 -> raw -> PCGS 63
1926 S ANACS XF40 -> raw -> PCGS 45

(Note the first three of these were unattributed buffalo varieties)

My luck crossing in the holder has not been as good, but typically yields the same grade and variety attribution.

As always "Buy the coin, not the holder".

Enjoy!

Richard

DrPete

If you want a registry that allows coins graded by PCGS and NGC, it is available: the NGC registry.

The PCGS registry is for PCGS-graded coins only.

Where is the problem?

19Lyds

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<< <i>Doesnt everyone say buy the coin not the holder? Ngc registry accepts PCGS coins, so why cant Pcgs do the same? Frankly, I find it foolish not to. >>



I think it's because PCGS doesn't want inferior coins mucking up their registry sets ! >>

Since it is all based upon coin number and certification number, it makes complete sense that PCGS will not allow NGC coins into their sets.

The certification number on NGC coins does not cross reference to a "specific" coin number, only the number of coins that were on that specific submission.

Couple that with the fact that PCGS has different standards than NGC (which is apparent in the market) and the disallowing or their coins in the PCGS registry becomes understandable.

Personally, I don't have a problem with it since I can usually pick up NGC coins for close to half what a PCGS coin of the same grade and attribution will go for.

Yes, buy the coin and not the holder but if you want to participate in PCGS's Set registry you'll have to play by their rules or not play at all. (or limit your play to ATS)