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1853WA Seated Dime Clip: Blakesley Effect?

I received this interesting 1853WA dime from a noted seated dime variety collector. At first I thought this was a double clip, but after taking images, the Blakesley Effect looks to be the answer.

Error specialist, could I please have your opinions? Thanks

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks to be a genuine planchet clip along with a rim/disc clip.

    Is the edge fully reeded or is it also a partial collar image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As per my question this image looking at the edge is referred to as a partial collar or railroad rim...

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  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    OK I bite; What is a Blakesley effect?
    Trime
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK I bite; What is a Blakesley effect? >>



    This flattened area is called the "Blakesley Effect", named after the person to explain this type of error.

    It occurs because when the planchet goes through the upset mill, and there is not enough pressure opposite the clip to force the metal up to form a rim.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Single genuine clip, the area opposite is the Blakesley effect. For whatever reason this is especially strong on seated dimes and half-dimes from that era. I don't have a handy image, but I have a clipped 1849 half-dime with a similar very strong Blakesley effect which I purchased some years ago as a double clip, it was only after studying it and a few other coins that I realized it was not a second clip.


    Sean Reynolds

    P.S.: You're lucky you found that coin before I did image
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As Sean says, it's a nice single clip with a
    nice Blakesley Effect opposite.

    To make myself feel old - I'm also probably
    one of the few people left who actually
    knew Blakesley personally back in the 60's.

    He would attend the local error club meetings
    in San Diego, Santa Ana, and Hollywood.

    A very interesting person, and a bit of a mystery
    to all of us.....
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • DismeguyDismeguy Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    Gentlemen...thank you for the responses and confirming my observation. The area opposite the major clip at 4:00-5:00 is fully reeded so no partial collar

    Will be adding this clipped specimen within the 1853WA Unhubbed F-104 listing (www.seateddimevarieties.com) and highlighting the Blakesley Effect.

    Fred, thank you for the comments about Mr. Blakesley.

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  • SullivanNumismaticsSullivanNumismatics Posts: 842 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As per my question this image looking at the edge is referred to as a partial collar or railroad rim...

    image >>

    Nice peace dollar partial collar-those are tough!

    Yes, the blakesley effect is present opposite the clip. Nice clip, too!

    Jon
    www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a great example of the Blakesley effect

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