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Why is the Pop Report so hard to navigate

Why can't we search only certain years of certain players instead of having to search through every card they have ever been on? Or a specific year or decade?

Why can't the PSA DNA cards have a separate search? It's very confusing to have them mixed right in with the graded cards.

Why aren't the columns interactive? As in, if I click on the 9s of a certain player it would list all the 9s in order down the line from most to least and so on and the same with the other columns.

Wouldn't it makes sense to be able to search, for example, the lowest or highest amount graded of Derek Jeter PSA 8s, 9s or 10s from 1992? It would be so easy. Type in 1992 Derek Jeter in Graded only (no PSA DNA), click on the PSA 8s column and presto-chango, ease of use.

It seems like PSA simply refuses to update anything with their online resources. The forums are old-school and their web-site can use much fine-tuning.

Can we start a petition for them to upgrade their site's amenities?

For the record, I AM a paying member.
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  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    If the $4.50 specials keep coming, the PSA website can remain as crappy as they'd like.


  • << <i>If the $4.50 specials keep coming, the PSA website can remain as crappy as they'd like. >>




    +1
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If the $4.50 specials keep coming, the PSA website can remain as crappy as they'd like. >>



    I really believe that if it were easier for people to navigate the Pop Reports, it would make our PSA graded cards more valuable in the long run. I get fed-up searching through thousands of cards sometimes and simply stop doing it. In turn, I'm missing out on valuable information that could sway me to purchase certain cards. Imagine if you could type in a year or a decade and click on a column to find out which cards have the lowest Pop 9s or 10s? That would be AWESOME and would have people scouring the earth for those cards.


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    << <i>If the $4.50 specials keep coming, the PSA website can remain as crappy as they'd like. >>



    I really believe that if it were easier for people to navigate the Pop Reports, it would make our PSA graded cards more valuable in the long run. I get fed-up searching through thousands of cards sometimes and simply stop doing it. In turn, I'm missing out on valuable information that could sway me to purchase certain cards. Imagine if you could type in a year or a decade and click on a column to find out which cards have the lowest Pop 9s or 10s? That would be AWESOME and would have people scouring the internet for those cards. >>




    Or the people would be subbing those only and driving the prices downward.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>If the $4.50 specials keep coming, the PSA website can remain as crappy as they'd like. >>



    I really believe that if it were easier for people to navigate the Pop Reports, it would make our PSA graded cards more valuable in the long run. I get fed-up searching through thousands of cards sometimes and simply stop doing it. In turn, I'm missing out on valuable information that could sway me to purchase certain cards. Imagine if you could type in a year or a decade and click on a column to find out which cards have the lowest Pop 9s or 10s? That would be AWESOME and would have people scouring the internet for those cards. >>




    Or the people would be subbing those only and driving the prices downward. >>



    PSA wants submissions, they don't care about which cards are subbed. And people do that anyway, it's kind of the point of grading, why not make it easier.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Do like I do and import the pop report into a spreadsheet and make the columns interactive yourself? They're nice enough to provide the pop report, NOW they have to appease everyone? Get over it.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do like I do and import the pop report into a spreadsheet and make the columns interactive yourself? They're nice enough to provide the pop report, NOW they have to appease everyone? Get over it. >>



    I'm simply saying that they could be more "user-friendly". Sorry if you think everyone should take the time to make their own freaking spreadsheets when it would be a thousand times easier for PSA to just upgrade their online Pop Reports.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
    Only on this site can someone suggest ways to make the site better and get flack and negative responses over it.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Sounds more like complaining...
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds more like complaining... >>



    Does it matter either way? It's the same suggested outcome. Why can't you just be cool for once.


  • << <i>Only on this site can someone suggest ways to make the site better and get flack and negative responses over it. >>




    So why not "suggest" it to them via an email instead of just openly airing your dislike for the current system.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I am cool, i even own a pair of sunglasses. image
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Only on this site can someone suggest ways to make the site better and get flack and negative responses over it. >>




    So why not "suggest" it to them via an email instead of just openly airing your dislike for the current system. >>



    Really? I thought this was an open forum where people discuss things. It's not like the PSA people aren't on the boards.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭

    The pop report's never going to be accurate anyway, and there's nothing PSA can do about that. The only cards that will always remain nearly accurate are the gem mint 10s, and even a small percent of those are cracked out for different reasons others than resubmitting.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The pop report's never going to be accurate anyway, and there's nothing PSA can do about that. The only cards that will always remain nearly accurate are the gem mint 10s, and even a small percent of those are cracked out for different reasons others than resubmitting. >>



    exactly... at least some responsible re-subbers send in their cracked flips (after the fact) and PSA updates the pop report accordingly.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
    Well, anyway, it's not like I'm asking for or expecting a miracle here. I'm simply noting that they could use an "ease of use" overhaul on the Pop Reports. Nothing a few weekends with a good computer programmer couldn't take care of.


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    << <i>

    << <i>Only on this site can someone suggest ways to make the site better and get flack and negative responses over it. >>




    So why not "suggest" it to them via an email instead of just openly airing your dislike for the current system. >>



    Really? I thought this was an open forum where people discuss things. It's not like the PSA people aren't on the boards. >>




    It is an open forum, that means you will get negative feedback from people, which when that happened you were quick to complain because someone had a different view of the subject. Get thicker skin or do not post openly.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Only on this site can someone suggest ways to make the site better and get flack and negative responses over it. >>




    So why not "suggest" it to them via an email instead of just openly airing your dislike for the current system. >>



    Really? I thought this was an open forum where people discuss things. It's not like the PSA people aren't on the boards. >>




    It is an open forum, that means you will get negative feedback from people, which when that happened you were quick to complain because someone had a different view of the subject. Get thicker skin or do not post openly. >>



    I didn't expect that suggestions to make the site better would be perceived negatively. I do have thick skin, that's why what you are saying doesn't mean anything to me. The thread speaks for itself, my only intention was to point out things that would make peoples' time on the site easier/more enjoyable. There is really no need to be negative about it at all. It would be like me telling someone that their shoes laces are untied then you get mad at me for telling them. lol
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Let's recap.

    The OP posts a complaint in multiple parts and suggests initiating a petition because the OP is unhappy with the Pop Report (something that we all wish was a little more user friendly). Then the OP complains when others are critical of the initial complaint, er, "suggestion."

    Why is it that the same familiar faces continue to have the same familiar problems?

    What ever happened to just taking your toys and going home?
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's recap.

    The OP posts a complaint in multiple parts and suggests initiating a petition because the OP is unhappy with the Pop Report (something that we all wish was a little more user friendly). Then the OP complains when others are critical of the initial complaint, er, "suggestion."

    Why is it that the same familiar faces continue to have the same familiar problems?

    What ever happened to just taking your toys and going home? >>



    What ever happened to staying on-topic.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Let's recap.

    The OP posts a complaint in multiple parts and suggests initiating a petition because the OP is unhappy with the Pop Report (something that we all wish was a little more user friendly). Then the OP complains when others are critical of the initial complaint, er, "suggestion."

    Why is it that the same familiar faces continue to have the same familiar problems?

    What ever happened to just taking your toys and going home? >>



    What ever happened to staying on-topic. >>



    And what topic was that?
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Let's recap.

    The OP posts a complaint in multiple parts and suggests initiating a petition because the OP is unhappy with the Pop Report (something that we all wish was a little more user friendly). Then the OP complains when others are critical of the initial complaint, er, "suggestion."

    Why is it that the same familiar faces continue to have the same familiar problems?

    What ever happened to just taking your toys and going home? >>



    What ever happened to staying on-topic. >>



    And what topic was that? >>



    The OP. What is your opinion on the topic at-hand, instead of your perception as to how I handled a couple needlessly negative comments.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    To stay on topic . . .

    sportscartheory asks: "Why is the Pop Report so hard to navigate?"

    OTWCards responds: "Because you are a friggin' lazy moron!"

    Is that on topic enough for you!?!?
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To stay on topic . . .

    sportscartheory asks: "Why is the Pop Report so hard to navigate?"

    OTWCards responds: "Because you are a friggin' lazy moron!"

    Is that on topic enough for you!?!? >>



    lol Take a pill, dude. So do you agree that the Pop Report is needlessly user-unfriendly?
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>To stay on topic . . .

    sportscartheory asks: "Why is the Pop Report so hard to navigate?"

    OTWCards responds: "Because you are a friggin' lazy moron!"

    Is that on topic enough for you!?!? >>



    lol Take a pill, dude. So do you agree that the Pop Report is needlessly user-unfriendly? >>



    No, I agree that you are an IDIOT! Can I get a second on the motion?
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>To stay on topic . . .

    sportscartheory asks: "Why is the Pop Report so hard to navigate?"

    OTWCards responds: "Because you are a friggin' lazy moron!"

    Is that on topic enough for you!?!? >>



    lol Take a pill, dude. So do you agree that the Pop Report is needlessly user-unfriendly? >>



    No, I agree that you are an IDIOT! Can I get a second on the motion? >>



    You can't get to me, friend. I know how you are. Stop wasting your time and try trolling someone else. lol
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You can't get to me, friend. I know how you are. Stop wasting your time and try trolling someone else. lol >>



    Please, don't call me "friend." Even in such a condescending manner, it's creepy. Even scarier is suggesting that you "know" who I am or that I'm trolling.

    You are a loon. And if you can't figure out how to make the Pop Report a more user friendly tool (like most of us have), then you have no one to blame but yourself. We all know it is lacking, but we work around it. Just as we work around the idiots like yourself that bring little to the discussions on these boards. Just every once in awhile, you need someone to kick you in the diaper and remind you that you're as cute and funny as you think you are.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>You can't get to me, friend. I know how you are. Stop wasting your time and try trolling someone else. lol >>



    Please, don't call me "friend." Even in such a condescending manner, it's creepy. Even scarier is suggesting that you "know" who I am or that I'm trolling.

    You are a loon. And if you can't figure out how to make the Pop Report a more user friendly tool (like most of us have), then you have no one to blame but yourself. We all know it is lacking, but we work around it. Just as we work around the idiots like yourself that bring little to the discussions on these boards. Just every once in awhile, you need someone to kick you in the diaper and remind you that you're as cute and funny as you think you are. >>



    Thanks for the laugh. Are you done now? Get it out of your system? You are really "Off the Wall". : )

    Anyone want to discuss the OP rather than troll with attacks and insults like it means something? lol
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
    I feel like a kid being yelled at by an old man while he shakes his fist. "You damn kids, with your rock music and your long hair!" God forbid this ancient site makes things easier/more enjoyable for it's users. What a CRAAAZY concept. Progress is too scary, huh? lol
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    Albert Pujols is my homeboy. image
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    Can I chime in on this?

    My $.02: DBOTW
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Can I chime in on this?

    My $.02: DBOTW >>



    +1
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really like the PSA website. I have all my cards in my inventory with scans. There may be improvements that can be made but as it is it is tremendous. It is also free. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
    http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/

    Ralph

  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can I chime in on this?

    My $.02: DBOTW >>



    My $.02: You and a handful of other posters make this forum unbearable. I would simply leave, but there are posters who are actually knowledgeable and respectful and I like to keep up with them. You and the others know who you are and you are the reason this forum is a joke to all other online communities. It's funny, you are calling me names and attacking me... and for what. It's okay that you are fine with sitting on your hands and taking whatever PSA sticks in your mouth. Enjoy it.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I really like the PSA website. I have all my cards in my inventory with scans. There may be improvements that can be made but as it is it is tremendous. It is also free. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. >>



    I'm a paying member. I have a right to want an online experience in 2010 that's a progression from the 1999 online experience. I'm not even talking about any of the things you are. I'm talking about the Pop Report and how ridiculously out-of-date it is. It's not a "gift horse". I have paid PSA good money for their services and their services should include a modern online experience.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My $.02: You and a handful of other posters make this forum unbearable. I would simply leave, but there are posters who are actually knowledgeable and respectful and I like to keep up with them. You and the others know who you are and you are the reason this forum is a joke to all other online communities. It's funny, you are calling me names and attacking me... and for what. It's okay that you are fine with sitting on your hands and taking whatever PSA sticks in your mouth. Enjoy it. >>



    Stay on topic!!!
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My $.02: You and a handful of other posters make this forum unbearable. I would simply leave, but there are posters who are actually knowledgeable and respectful and I like to keep up with them. You and the others know who you are and you are the reason this forum is a joke to all other online communities. It's funny, you are calling me names and attacking me... and for what. It's okay that you are fine with sitting on your hands and taking whatever PSA sticks in your mouth. Enjoy it. >>



    Stay on topic!!! >>



    Okay. So why do you think it's a non-issue for a multi-million dollar company to offer an outdated online experience in this, 2010?
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    Maybe the OP should stay on topic of the forum name- sports cards and memorabilia.

    If you wanna gripe about navigating the PSA population report, do it somewhere that has readers which will care about your problems. I understand you're lazy and it's sooo much work to find a population of a card, but if you aren't happy, go find some cut rate grader and troll their boards. Perhaps ISA? They seem like your kind of people.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    You sound just like DrLou and conveniently mimic his Beckett rant . . .

    The site is useful. Is it ideal? No, but how much is it costing you? NOTHING!

    As has already been stated, the information is provided and you can use it in other formats to make it rather easy to search. If that's too much for you, then don't use it. PSA has no obligation to provide ANY of the information. They do so as a convenience. Some use it to justify their pricing, others to track their collections and others for many additional reasons. No one has said it is perfect and no one, except for you, really seems to expect much else from a FREE service.

    As an old man waving his fists at the long hairs with the loud music, I concede and leave you to your pointless accusations.

  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You sound just like DrLou and conveniently mimic his Beckett rant . . .

    The site is useful. Is it ideal? No, but how much is it costing you? NOTHING!

    As has already been stated, the information is provided and you can use it in other formats to make it rather easy to search. If that's too much for you, then don't use it. PSA has no obligation to provide ANY of the information. They do so as a convenience. Some use it to justify their pricing, others to track their collections and others for many additional reasons. No one has said it is perfect and no one, except for you, really seems to expect much else from a FREE service.

    As an old man waving his fists at the long hairs with the loud music, I concede and leave you to your pointless accusations. >>



    It's not free to me. I give PSA my money for their services, which includes an online experience. Anyway, I only brought it up because it makes sense for them to WANT to update it. No good comes from not updating it and nothing bad can come from updating it, so what is the big deal. You guys are a trip.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
    lol "Oh my gorsh, he wants to change everything. OMG OMG!!! OH NOOO!!!"
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    "I get fed-up searching through thousands of cards sometimes and simply stop doing it. In turn, I'm missing out on valuable information that could sway me to purchase certain cards. Imagine if you could type in a year or a decade and click on a column to find out which cards have the lowest Pop 9s or 10s? That would be AWESOME and would have people scouring the earth for those cards."


    The OP isn't complaining about the functionality as a collector. He's a lazy dealer who wants PSA to generate a shopping list of low pop cards for him.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"I get fed-up searching through thousands of cards sometimes and simply stop doing it. In turn, I'm missing out on valuable information that could sway me to purchase certain cards. Imagine if you could type in a year or a decade and click on a column to find out which cards have the lowest Pop 9s or 10s? That would be AWESOME and would have people scouring the earth for those cards."


    The OP isn't complaining about the functionality as a collector. He's a lazy dealer who wants PSA to generate a shopping list of low pop cards for him. >>



    I'm no PSA dealer. I don't have one PSA graded card for sale right now. I just like perusing the Pop Reports for stuff to buy and I hate sifting through literally thousands of cards and columns just to find one. It's absolutely ridiculous.

    Keep making stuff up.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>"I get fed-up searching through thousands of cards sometimes and simply stop doing it. In turn, I'm missing out on valuable information that could sway me to purchase certain cards. Imagine if you could type in a year or a decade and click on a column to find out which cards have the lowest Pop 9s or 10s? That would be AWESOME and would have people scouring the earth for those cards."


    The OP isn't complaining about the functionality as a collector. He's a lazy dealer who wants PSA to generate a shopping list of low pop cards for him. >>



    A fact which, if true, would in no way invalidate the initial complaint.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,951 ✭✭✭✭
    I find the pop report very easy to navigate, and I very rarely use the player search feature. Besides, if there is a card that has never been graded, it won't show up in the player search anyway.
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I find the pop report very easy to navigate, and I very rarely use the player search feature. Besides, if there is a card that has never been graded, it won't show up in the player search anyway. >>



    Say you want to find a 1959 Topp Al Kaline. Do you type in Al Kaline and scroll down to find the '59, or do you click on 1959 Topps and scroll until you see his name, which could take forever if you don't know the number. My point is that if you could simply type in 1959 All Kaline and only Kaline cards from 1959 show up, it would make things so much easier. Especially when looking for, say, a 1986 Topps Nolan Ryan, it takes forever to find the card if you don't know the number or don't feel like skimming through 16 years of Nolan Ryan cards and PSA DNAs to find the '86. It could just be so much easier and I don't see why it's so awful to want it updated.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • Bgs has a neat way of searching population reports. The Bgs registry is 5 years behind though image

    Ryan image
    1938 Cartledge Boxing cards psa 7 - psa 10
    1951 Topps Red backs psa 8 only!
    1960 Golden Press Presidential set Psa 8 's - Psa 9's
    1961 Golden Press psa 9's
    1976 Topps baseball psa 9 Stars
    1980 Kelloggs baseball Psa 9's - Psa 10's
    1988-1989 Fleer Basketball psa 9's
    1988-1989 Fleer Stickers psa 9's
    1989-1990 Fleer Basketball psa 10's
    1992 Coca-Cola Donruss Nolan Ryan 1-26 Psa 10 only Gpa 9.80++ E-mail Newyork00007@aol.com
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>questfor..DBOTW >>



    I'll bet you couldn't even coherently explain why you think that. lol
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I find the pop report very easy to navigate, and I very rarely use the player search feature. Besides, if there is a card that has never been graded, it won't show up in the player search anyway. >>



    Say you want to find a 1959 Topp Al Kaline. Do you type in Al Kaline and scroll down to find the '59, or do you click on 1959 Topps and scroll until you see his name, which could take forever if you don't know the number. My point is that if you could simply type in 1959 All Kaline and only Kaline cards from 1959 show up, it would make things so much easier. Especially when looking for, say, a 1986 Topps Nolan Ryan, it takes forever to find the card if you don't know the number or don't feel like skimming through 16 years of Nolan Ryan cards and PSA DNAs to find the '86. It could just be so much easier and I don't see why it's so awful to want it updated. >>



    While I do agree with your basic discussion, in the cases you cited, it is easier just to look at the registry sets.

    It would be nice if the pop has complete search functions and perhaps if they put contrasting color bars on the .5 grade column.

    Clear Skies,
    Mark
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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